Catch-ability and top end of the Chedda?

[csarqui]

I realize that this board is new so there might not be a lot of experience out there yet. I'm interested in knowing how it catches waves and what size surf it can handle. I'm currently on my Dominator 90% of the time and totally spoiled with it's ability to get into waves but I have a surf trip to Nicaragua coming up in April and I need something else to take with me for the mid-range wave size spectrum. Anybody have an insights on this? Thanks.

[RobinL]

2 of your three boards are round/pin tails if this is something you like why not go for a unibrow?

[Chris]

hey csarqui,
I would say it depends a little on your current quiver and preferences. You can absolutely surf it in decent conditions, think waist to over head. I think personally, if it were overhead and barreling, i would be on more of a shortboard shape, but it would be a great pair coupled with a dominator. I think it has a lower end than a board like the Michel or the Alternator, but you could easily make do with it on a Nicaragua trip until about overhead and half i would say...

[csarqui]

RobinL, yeah I'm really interested in the Unibrow. A large shipment of Unibrows and Chubbys just showed up at SurfRide here in San Diego so I went to check them out. I'm a little concerned though that it will ride like the Hellfire, which I didn't click with. Either way they had already sold the 5'10 so I didn't really get to check it out.

They did have the Chubby 5'11 which looks really good. I need something for that mid-range wave. These thoughts only come up for me when I travel. The surf is really soft in my area and I can ride a groveler 90% of the time. And then there's the addiction, I want to ride every board out there. Especially the Firewires. Thanks for the description Chris. I'm sure I'll ponder which board to get next, for weeks to come.

[RobinL]

Csarqui,

Interesting feedback on unibrow looking and feeling like the hellfire. I also didn't get on with the Hellfire but felt it was down to the diamond tail (I much prefer the Dom to the spit too), deep double concave and not quite enough volume for me.


Seems like we share an addiction and are pretty much looking for the same thing. I'm looking for a board for travel and for that 1 in 10 time when the surf is firing at home but not big enough for a step up.

I use my Dom 90% of the time but am really looking for a board which is forgiving when ive been out of the water for a while but will also help me go a little more vertical with my surfing. Love the Dom but feel like I could do with a little more snappiness in my surfing.

Interested to hear chris's thoughts on whether the unibrow surfs like the hellfire.

No unibrow or chubby here in the UK until march so great to hear your thoughts on how they look in the flesh.
Cheers

[csarqui]

We are in the exact same boat.

I went to "other" SurfRide store yesterday and checked out the 5'10 Unibrow. The bottom tail section looks exactly like the Hellfire to me, just round instead of diamond shaped. It's looks like a significant double concave. I don't think it'll work for me because I am a very front footed surfer and I caught rail on the Hellfire constantly.

[RobinL]

V interesting.
I used to be very front footed but the Dom has balanced my stance a little.
El Fuego diamond was billed as the board for front footed surfers and I think Chris said the CC is like a blend between the alt and the El Fuego.

I love the stealth for its higher tail rocker but still feel like it fits a similar niche as my Dom due to the thickness/width of the tail in the volume I need for the board overall. CC has quite a high tail rocker and is more refined in the tail so now leaning towards the CC rather than the unibrow.

I feel like frontside my surfing has progressed so much on the Dom but I'm struggle to get any where near vertical on my backside with it or the stealth. I know this is technique too but i used to surf better on my backside on poly boards 4 years ago. So I'm looking for a board that paddles well but which is a little more refined in the tail to help me progress in a more balanced way.

[daveo]

I'll try to help you guys out since I live in san diego and likely surf similar waves. I had a dom for 2 years and surfed it in everything from waist high mush to doh bali. Granted that was not the ideal board for all conditions, but I felt like it could handle just about anything with the right fins and loved it for its versatility. However, i felt that the thick tail and pretty wide rails were great for catching waves but really limited the agility/ performance for me in better surf. I wanted something I could turn harder, get a little more vertical, and transfer speed through turns a bit better, while still being able to catch waves easily and handle a variety of conditions. I was going to buy an HF or spit but then I saw the chedda on the web. Glad I waited. I was lucky thanks to the guys at Clairemont Surf, and scored a ched in mid December. It's everything I wanted. It's not as much a groveller as the dom but it does still get into backed off waves very well. The biggest bonus has been the performance in decent to good surf. Much tighter arcs, great maneuverability.. surfable range is waist to doh. I would rather have a true groveller until it hits chest high ( potatonator perhaps) but I have yet to max out on the high end. Still very solid hold and control in head + blacks and head 1/2 reef (ea techflex).

But, If I just wanted a board to compliment my dominator for good, fast, hollow waves like Nicaragua should offer, I might be eyeing the mini driver or f1. If I want a daily so cal driver to replace a dominator and give me a sharper edge and higher performance ceiling. Chedda it is. Hope that helps somebody.

[RobinL]

That is great advice thank you daveo. Just what I needed.
I've got my Alt for when it gets bigger and better so I am definately leaning towards the CC in 61 but still potentially interested in a 60 Sub.

Has anyone out there upgraded from a Sub to a CC and can draw a comparison?

[csarqui]

Well, that's exactly what I wanted to hear daveo. I've owned both the Mini Driver and F1. Neither worked well for me. I think I've grown to expect some grovel-ability in every board that I own. I really like hearing that it paddles in well and has a decent top end. If you don't mind, what is your weight and board dims? Thanks.

[daveo]

Csarqui-

Im 6'3 and 175-180lbs. I got the 6'1 chedda 33.1L and it feels like the perfect size for me. I would recommend the 510 or 511 for you based on what else your using.

[Erling]

daveo: what size was the dominator you had, and did you feel that it had the right volume for you?

[daveo]

Erling-

I had a 600 dominator. If I was to get a new one I would go 510 for sure. The 600 sure made groveling and catching waves ridiculously easy and still surfed very well, but im sure the 510 would be my more optimal volume for performance. That's why I volumed down to the 601CC. By no means am I bashing the dom. It is a sick board. One of my favorites ever. I just wanted a squash tail back under my feet and so far the cc has only made me smile.

[paulnunn]

I have had the C.C for about a month. I have surfed it from knee to double overhead and it goes sick. A one board quiver for sure! I had a Hellfire before and loved that but this board goes as well in top end as the Hellfire but much better in the bottom end stuff. I have the 5'11 and at 80kg it seems perfect :)

[Erling]

Paulnunn: sounds perfect!! :D
I'm 80kg and was aiming for the 5'11 as well. Where do you use it and do you use 6mm full wintergear or boardshorts? Not a huge difference between 5'11 and 6' , did you have a look at both before you decided ?
And what fins are you using ?

at boarshop.co.uk the board comes with FCS PC3 fins.... seems a bit small for someone around 80kg. Should this board be surfed with smaller fins than normal?
http://www.boardshop.co.uk/firewire-fst-chubby-chedda-5ft-11-surfboard-white-pre-order-now!/fcc-511q-03/

[prjwebb]

I'd put K3s in it. Or at least PC5s. 3s would be too small for you.

[Erling]

Yeah, K3/K2.1/PC5 would be my fist choices in it...

How is the concaves in it? Seems like a deep single?
1380

[prjwebb]

Maybe a hint of double over the rear fin. Haven't seen one in the flesh yet to say for sure.
Shane at FW Europe was frothing over the CC sample though. Said it was like the Sub Scorcher but better.

[Erling]

looks like the CC is hitting UK in March. After all this great feedback I might have to pre-order one.

[prjwebb]

If I didn't had a vanguard on order I'd have a CC on order...

[RobinL]

Maybe a hint of double over the rear fin. Haven't seen one in the flesh yet to say for sure.
Shane at FW Europe was frothing over the CC sample though. Said it was like the Sub Scorcher but better.

Is Shane from FW Europe on the forum? I'd be very interested to hear his thoughts on CC vs Sub

[prjwebb]

Not that I know of.

[Fazza]

Maybe a hint of double over the rear fin. Haven't seen one in the flesh yet to say for sure.
Shane at FW Europe was frothing over the CC sample though. Said it was like the Sub Scorcher but better.

It is a single with a double through the fins and a slight V in the last part of the tail.........really nice board and probably been the board i have had the most fun riding.

[Chris]

Yeah the tail of the Chubby is an upgrade over the Sub because of the V. It makes the rails feel a bit more sensitive and increases overall performance. Its an ultra versatile shape that, in my opinion, will surf as good as you can surf it. There is no ceiling in small to mid sized surf.

Cheers

[Erling]

Got an e-mail from boarshop.co.uk today regarding the fins that come with the CC. Firewire are supplying the board with fins at trade, and it's Firewire who recommended PC3 on boards up until 6'0. Boardshop.co.uk can not change this setup, but can sell the board £20 cheaper without fins... (better to buy the board with fins and sell the fins if you ask me)

So.. how come Firewire recommends PC3 fins to a board that is recommended to surfers around 80-90kg? Chris ?

[prjwebb]

I think it's down to the Europe distribution. In Aus and the US fins aren't included. If you can get a set of PC3s for £20 though you're laughing. Either sell them for more or use the rear as a small trailer and maybe the sides as quad rears for the Potato.

[paulnunn]

I live in Australia and surf the South Coast of NSW in a 3/2mm most of the year, the board has plenty of volume for me and gets you in to the hollow ones a little quicker and floats over flat sections with ease. Think the extra volume of a 6'0 would start going the wrong way for me. Boards with too much volume can be a hazard like too little volume. Having surfed on Gower in Wales most my life it would be my good wave board there. Would prob have bought a Potatonator if I was still living at home to cover the fat bottom end stuff you get at a typical welsh beachie. Think a C.C and Potatonator would cover any type of surf back in the U.K. I have the K fins with the blue dot on in my C.C. They are my favourite fins by a mile! They seem to go sick on the board and I would not consider using any other fins. In Oz with the extra grunt the C.C is a one board quiver unless you charge huge slabs etc.

Had another surf in clean chest high wind swell on the weekend and the board went sick again, can't see myself riding anything else! I loved the dumpster diver and Hellfire but this board feels like I'm cheating ;)

[Matt_s]

I live in Australia and surf the South Coast of NSW in a 3/2mm most of the year, the board has plenty of volume for me and gets you in to the hollow ones a little quicker and floats over flat sections with ease. Think the extra volume of a 6'0 would start going the wrong way for me. Boards with too much volume can be a hazard like too little volume. Having surfed on Gower in Wales most my life it would be my good wave board there. Would prob have bought a Potatonator if I was still living at home to cover the fat bottom end stuff you get at a typical welsh beachie. Think a C.C and Potatonator would cover any type of surf back in the U.K. I have the K fins with the blue dot on in my C.C. They are my favourite fins by a mile! They seem to go sick on the board and I would not consider using any other fins. In Oz with the extra grunt the C.C is a one board quiver unless you charge huge slabs etc.

Had another surf in clean chest high wind swell on the weekend and the board went sick again, can't see myself riding anything else! I loved the dumpster diver and Hellfire but this board feels like I'm cheating ;)

all this deep winter weather in the UK makes me want to move to aus!, must be so nice in a 3/2, you move for work paul?

Think i might be sold on the CC, at 71KG 5'9 intermeidiate, good paddler, do I go for the 5'9 and drop down to 27.5 l of vol or stick with what I know (in the 5'9 EF and 5'6 Dom) and stay with the 28.6 lrts of vol and get a 5'10 CC.... havnt been in the sub 28 L zone yet

thoughts?

[mudsak]

I realize that this board is new so there might not be a lot of experience out there yet. I'm interested in knowing how it catches waves and what size surf it can handle. I'm currently on my Dominator 90% of the time and totally spoiled with it's ability to get into waves but I have a surf trip to Nicaragua coming up in April and I need something else to take with me for the mid-range wave size spectrum. Anybody have an insights on this? Thanks.

I can't comment directly to the catch-ability/top end of the Chedda, because I haven't even held one in my hand. However, I would imagine it to be in a similar genre/feel of a sub-scorcher/dumpster diver type of board. What I can offer is that I'm a guy who lives full time in Nicaragua. Considering that you already have a dominator I would probably recommend something a little more geared towards the higher performance end of the spectrum. It's a bit difficult to gauge what the swell is going to do around April, but generally it does start to fill in with a little more regularity around that time. The majority of the waves down here are steep/fast/hollow. I would probably recommend either a F1, MB, Mini Driver, or the often overlooked Alternator. I think the Alternator would be the most versatile of the bunch (still high performance but paddles really well too). The F1 is amazing on critical waves, but I do feel a bit handicapped in the paddle department on that thing.

Anyways... your dominator will cover you just fine on the average to in-between swell days. If you happen to score a decent swell on your trip I would be willing to bet that you would wish you had something with a bit more length/rocker and a little thinner tail than what a Chedda is going to offer.

[delmarsurfer]

daveo & Csarqui -
I live in SD as well and really appreciate your feedback on the CC. Looks like a fun board.
Currently surfing a 5'6 Hellfire but also want something to push my surfing, go top to bottom and harder turns...much like daveo was looking for.
daveo, the volume in the 6'1 seems like a lot for you. Do you like it or feel like you should have went down in volume?
Can anyone out there comment on how the CC performs in comparison to the Hellfire?

[daveo]

Delmarsurfer-

I haven' t surfed the elf or hf so I can't say how much the cc would help you "push" your surfing in comparison to those boards. The tail is obviously different. Chris or Paulnunn may be better people to field that question. I can say that the cc has perfomed excellent for me in waist to head1/2 + waves. AM1s, WCT, and EA techflex-for overhead surf). At 180lbs and 6'3 I feel that the 6'1 cc fits me perfectly. If I could swap for another size, i'd get the same 6'1 every time. At 180lbs you can go smaller but being 6'3 I need a bit extra length. That's still riding a high performance board that's 2" shorter than me. I can't wait to surf it*again!! I'm so obsessed with the board I still come back to this forum when im not in the water.

[delmarsurfer]

Thanks daveo.
I figured part of the reason you went with 6'1 was your size, sounds like you nailed it.
Glad to hear you're so stoked on the CC. Such a good feeling!
I just got a 5'7 demo (would buy 5'6 though) but the waves have been crap most of the weekend.
Hopefully something will come through tomorrow and I can really test the board out. Feels good though.

[delmarsurfer]

paulnunn,
Am I thinking of switching to the CC from a Hellfire.
Can you shed any more light on the differences between surfing the CC vs. the HF.
Do you find the CC is more manueverable or just better on the bottom end?
What size HF did you have?
I felt up a 5'6 CC last night and it feels great. The rails felt a little less chunky (which I like) and I'd have to say the tail is definitely thinner.
Thanks!

[Chris]

Hey DelMar,
I think the CC has the capacity to be ridden a bit more progressively and feel like its a little bit faster because it has a nice single concave under foot that process into a fast slight double under in the tail. Compared to the hellfire, this will make the board plane just a little bit more quickly and feel like it is a touch mroe on top of the water.

the double concave of the Hellfire lends its self to being turned over from rail to rail at higher speeds. It increases bite and thus has more control in bigger waves.

so the question of maneuverability becomes a "depends on the wave" type answer. Think faster and more progressive low end for the CC. A bit more control with the hellfire on the high end.

Cheers and hope this helps.

[delmarsurfer]

Thanks, Chris. Great feedback!
It sounds like the CC has a little less rocker in the nose. Will this affect the ability to surf it vertically or will this board do everything you're capable of surfing?
What do you mean it can be ridden a bit more progressively?
Also, how do you compare the CC to your beloved Unibrow?
It will be great to hear more reviews from people who've ridden the CC but between you, paulnunn and daveo the CC sounds like a great board!

[nn66]

Hey Delmar

I have a CC 6'6' I replaced both my Hellfire 6'6" and Spitfire 6'4" I have ridden it in solid 6ft with AM2 fins it did feel a bit stiff however not an issue really. I just last week got a set of Future WCT and the board is a different board it blows the Hellfire away and catches waves just as good as the Spitfire. I was after a 2 board quiver and I have it with the BP 5'11" as my under 3ft board, however I am thinking the CC will even ride nicely at 2ft and it goes vertical with ease. I highly recommend the CC as a great performer and great wave catch ability and the WCT fins for 2-5ft and you will be stoked.

[delmarsurfer]

nn66, thanks for the feedback!
Blows the Hellfire away????...WOW! I like the sounds of that.
I was a bit concerned that it might be too similar to the Hellfire and I may not notice much of a difference...doesn't sound like that will be the case.
Since you've surfed both boards does Chris's analysis above sound familiar?
I think I am going to stick with FCS but it looks like the WCT's are similar to my K2.1 fins so they should go well.

[delmarsurfer]

I got to demo the 5'7 CC again this weekend but unfortunately wasn't able to get a lot of time on it.
Caught a few decent waves but at times the board almost seemed to bog a bit.
I had planned on getting the 5'6 at my weight which is 1.3L less in volume.
Is it possible the board would have this affect if it were over volumed 1 - 1.5L? Or is it more likely it was the waves/not being used to the board?

[paulnunn]

paulnunn,
Am I thinking of switching to the CC from a Hellfire.
Can you shed any more light on the differences between surfing the CC vs. the HF.
Do you find the CC is more manueverable or just better on the bottom end?
What size HF did you have?
I felt up a 5'6 CC last night and it feels great. The rails felt a little less chunky (which I like) and I'd have to say the tail is definitely thinner.
Thanks!

I really loved the Hellfire and it has been one of the best boards I have ridden until I got a C.C! The C.C just does every thing better, surfs mush better, surfs waves with good shape and paddles better. From waist high up I would not surf another board here in Australia on the South Coast. Having said that if I was living some where with less powerful waves I would get a Potatonator too for lower end stuff. Think with those two you would cover 95% of the surf most of us get that are not on the Dream Tour!

[kdropin]

paulnunn what size cc did you get and how much do u weigh?

[delmarsurfer]

kdropin - On Page 2 he said he got a 5'11 CC, weighs 80kg and the volume feels perfect.

paulnunn - What size Hellfire did you have?

[delmarsurfer]

Daveo, nn66, paulnunn - are any of you having issues with the sensitivity of the tail on the CC?

[nn66]

Hey Delmar I saw Sarges review and yes if you say for instance take your weight of your back foot the board kind of bogs, it only happens to me when I have finished the wave when i am cutting off. So I guess the conclusion is you do ride the board with more drive of your back foot as well as a balanced relaxed stance. I have no issues once again catching waves in the 2ft range I basically see a wave and I can get it, whereas my HF 6'6" I had to be in the exact position to catch waves which drove me mad. I do like the WCT fins in this board over the AM2 which is apparently weird as I am 103kgs and the WCT is for a lighter surfer I am thinking it's the mix of a bigger board with a smaller fin that's bringing the right combo together. I do however ride my BP with JC fronts and controller rears and it rips it is such a good board for 1-3ft much better than the SP.

[delmarsurfer]

nn66 - Thanks. I have heard the board has a bit of a "skatey" feel due to the tail. Have you experienced that or is your only issue with the tail when you take weight off your back foot and the board bogs a bit?
Still liking the CC over your HF?
In comparing how the two catch waves it sounds like with the HF you had to be in the perfect position to catch it whereas with the CC it is more forgiving or easier to catch waves?

[nn66]

delmar it kind of has a loose feel I wouldn't say skatey, however it is a lot looser with the WCT fins and yes the bog issue is only when you take the weight off your back foot. Back to the HF if you like yours and can catch waves easily it's not a bad board my issue was I just could not get enough waves and it drove me mad, however when I got waves I did like the board in the bigger stuff. I noticed you have a EF that's interesting because I think the CC is quite similar to the EF and a bit like the HF so you could sell both and get a CC and a BP, I rode a 5'9" BP yesterday after riding my BP 5'11" for nearly a year and the difference in performance was ridiculous and it still caught waves easily not as good but the performance made up for it, so there will be a BP 5'11" on evil bay tonight.

[delmarsurfer]

nn66- Sold the EF Friday night. Just wasn't what I was looking for. I think a little much volume in the nose for me so hopefully the CC isn't too much like the EF in that regard.
Do you find the extra volume in the nose of the CC restricting performance-wise at all or is it not a big enough difference from the HF?
I do like my HF and catch waves well but, like you, wish I could get into more waves with it. I am hoping with just a tad less rocker in the nose and a bit more volume with the CC that will do the trick. Also, the rails on HF feel just a little bit thick for me.

[nn66]

delmar the nose is nice just the right volume and does not restrict performance, what size CC are you getting?

[delmarsurfer]

nn66 - so the volume in the nose isn't a big difference from the HF...just right? Getting the 5'6 CC. I demo'd the 5'7 and it felt like a little too much volume. I hope my stoke on the CC is as good as yours. Looking forward to more waves and more fun!

[daveo]

Delmar- the only issue I have with the sensitivity of the tail is that it's so awesome that now that there's no waves im bummed I can't surf it.

[daveo]

If you like to surf with you weight back, try a dominator or spitfire. Very forgiving boards but not as high performance as the cc. Also, sub may be good.

[delmarsurfer]

daveo - Sounds like you are super stoked on the CC and I like to hear that! Hope to be there soon myself...just bought a 5'6 yesterday!!!!
I had a Spitfire, granted it was over volumed, but not the type of board I was looking for.
I am wanting to push my surfing, know the type of surfing I aspire to do, and it sounds like the CC could be that "next level" type board for me.
Want a high performance machine that can still catch plenty of SoCal waves.
I seem to be more of a front footed surfer and am working at getting my weight back more.
The Hellfire has worked well for me but I am hoping the CC will be even better as a few people have experienced with the CC.

[gkekoa]

Whats the difference between the CC and the Sub? I got a sub and love it for certain conditions.

[FW - Fan]

Whats the difference between the CC and the Sub? I got a sub and love it for certain conditions.

Gkekoa ...off topic I know but I am curious about the quote at the bottom of your post....what is that from?

[50young]

Gkekoa ...off topic I know but I am curious about the quote at the bottom of your post....what is that from?

Got to love google. Quote is from the Bible John 10:10

[gkekoa]

Gkekoa ...off topic I know but I am curious about the quote at the bottom of your post....what is that from?
That's it John 10.10, just trying to live da good life with Jesus, and trying to stay away from the other life where I get stuff stolen from me.

[FW - Fan]

That's it John 10.10, just trying to live da good life with Jesus, and trying to stay away from the other life where I get stuff stolen from me.

Good way to live your life...

[delmarsurfer]

Just sold the 5'6 Hellfire and haven't even hit the water with the new Chedda...ALL IN...fingers crossed.

[nn66]

good luck delmar it takes a few surfs now you just need a BP and your covered.

[kdropin]

def give some reviews.. i'm leaning towards the 5'10 chedda

[delmarsurfer]

Surf is looking bleak for a few days...maybe a little something Sunday or Monday. As soon as I have some surfs on it I'll post a review.

[sunscreensummer]

Flying home to Cape Town tomorrow evening, and have a Chubby 6'0 waiting for me. Can't wait to paddle out on the CC on Sat. morning !

[delmarsurfer]

Nice!
Someone needs to get a video posted of the CC in action.

[delmarsurfer]

Got a few surfs in over the weekend on the new Chedda. Surf wasn't real big but there were some nice sets that had some push. Mostly waist to chest with a few head high.
I definitely picked the right size and noticed a difference between the 5'7 I demo'd and the 5'6 (1.3L difference).
The CC paddles great and is as easy or easier to paddle than my 5'6 Hellfire and it definitely gets into waves a bit easier.
Overall the board felt great, very manueverable and got me into many waves that I would have either had to be in a better position for or paddle a little harder for with the HF.
More to write as I get some better waves and get more comfortable with the board.

[sunscreensummer]

Picked up the 6'0 on Friday night, and first thing I noticed that it leans more to Performance than Hybrid.

Surfed over the weekend on a beach break with fast changing conditions due to big changes in tide and currents. The board is not a groveller, but does paddle into waves with reasonable ease. I have the 6'0 Dominator, which is too big for me(5'10 would be better ). With the Dominator I just have to look at a wave and I'm on it. The CC requires a bit of paddling:)

The Dominator is an easy and fun board, but lacked performance and hold in more critical waves. I think the Chubby will fit the more critical mold. I had to work it a bit to get going on a few take-offs, but I think I just have to spend some more time on it. The waves didn't allow for much play, as they were fast. The board handled great and I got some nice floaters and 360's out of the board, with the odd re entry. I am looking forward to getting some open faces to work the board on.

I used FCS G-AM fins, which are quite big, but which I like in general. I will at some stage try the M5's.


185 cm , 86kgs, 40 years on this planet - 6'0 Dominator & 6'0 Chubby Chedda

[Chris]

yeha that is a fair assessment i think. It depends what you are coming off too when you start riding it. If you have been groveling on a Michel, then the Chubby is going to feel like a blessing in smaller surf. On the other hand, if you have been on a bigger board, yeah it can feel like a new challenge for sure.

[RobinL]

So if I had a 60 sub scorcher for around head high could the 62 chubby work well in the head and a half range if I wanted a shorter step up, which still had some float? Love my 64 alt but often wish I could have a board which surfs in a similar way with a similar volume but a little less length.

[prjwebb]

I think the Sub and CC are too similar. I could be wrong though. If you want a shorter step up I'd look at the Mini Driver or widening a 6'2 Alt or Michel in the CBD.

[RobinL]

Thanks prj,
Really like the look of the minidriver but i tend to like something with a slightly narrower nose in the bigger stuff. Never had a look at the CBD but will definitely have a play with the alt keeping the dims similar to the 64 but shortening it up.

[RobinL]

FYI - chubby chedda is up on th compare function!
Thanks Chris.

[paulnunn]

kdropin - On Page 2 he said he got a 5'11 CC, weighs 80kg and the volume feels perfect.

paulnunn - What size Hellfire did you have?

For years like everyone else on the planet I used to try to ride high performance boards in average waves. My old 6'2 x 18.5 x 2 3/8 would fly in Indo and then sink like a coin in a wishing well once home! The first of the wide, fat, ugly revolution was my Dumpster Diver, loved it but it fell to pieces after 6 months?! I then bought a 5'10 Hellfire, which made surfing average waves more fun and a hell of alot easier. I surfed it in everything from knee to double overhead and would have stuck to it had I not seen the outline and volume in the C.C. I looked at one in Byron Bay over Xmas and never looked back. Hands down the best board I have ridden! My 5'11 C.C with K2.1 is epic for my 80kg frame. I took a risk to go a bit bigger with more volume after having a go on the firewire volume calculator and now wish I had ridden boards with more volume years ago. I would paddle for waves previously where I would be closest to the pocket and people would be up and going down the line while I was closest to the power?!....well no more!

[sunscreensummer]

Ahoy,

so we are all built different , and have different levels of competence.

Last week I managed to surf the CC 6'0 in a grinding hollow overhead beachbreak, where Jordy Smith usually does his air stuff, or tucks into some nuggets. The board went really well for me. Paddled in easy, and held its rail.

I then surfed it in powerfull beachbreaks with more face. It likes a bit of power in the wave, and then one can really throw it about. Tail is nice and loose on some of the turns, so you are in for some nice surprises ! REally fun though.

The big thing is that this board seems to like a little bit more powerfull waves, and not your average sloppy surf. I will keep my Dominator 6'0 for the slop days.

[sunscreensummer]

I also surfed a small(waist to chest high) beachbreak but it was running down a bank, so it had some juice. It went really good on that, and i had loads of fun on it. The wave was not sloppy though.

[Chris]

good stuff sunscreen. Yeah i think that's fair. The more performance-like that you get in the hybrid category, them more steepness you need in a wave. The Vanguard and Chubby Chedda are both good examples of this. They have much more versatility on the small end than say an alternator or a Michel, but they definitely require a bit more speed and higher wave quality than board like the dom, spit of the potato family.

Cheers

[pmorgan]

For years like everyone else on the planet I used to try to ride high performance boards in average waves. My old 6'2 x 18.5 x 2 3/8 would fly in Indo and then sink like a coin in a wishing well once home! The first of the wide, fat, ugly revolution was my Dumpster Diver, loved it but it fell to pieces after 6 months?! I then bought a 5'10 Hellfire, which made surfing average waves more fun and a hell of alot easier. I surfed it in everything from knee to double overhead and would have stuck to it had I not seen the outline and volume in the C.C. I looked at one in Byron Bay over Xmas and never looked back. Hands down the best board I have ridden! My 5'11 C.C with K2.1 is epic for my 80kg frame. I
took a risk to go a bit bigger with more volume after having a go on the firewire volume calculator and now wish I had ridden boards with more volume years ago. I would paddle for waves previously where I would be closest to the pocket and people would be up and going down the line while I was closest to the power?!....well no more!

Were those folk not dropping in on you.? Well not any more by the sounds of it.

[moolie]

Hi Sunscreen
I see you went with the 6'0 chubby 31.6 l volume. I am around 84kg and wondering if you are happy with the 6'0 as opposed to the 6'1 which the volume calc would suggest for me. I live in PE, so by default it will get used in less punchy waves than the CT beachies, but i also get out of the bay on weekends to the spots with more juice. Do you feel the 6'0 is ample volume for you in a 4/3 suit or could you go up to a 6'1 without much performance sacrifice?
Thanks

[sunscreensummer]

Hi Moolie,

I bought the Dominator 6'0 which was too big. I still use it on the very small and weak days at places like Strand.

The 6'0 Chubby suits me great. I wouldn't want more volume, and also not thicker rails.

What is the current board you ride, and how does that feel ?

[moolie]

Hi Sunscreen
Thanks for the info. I currently have a 6'2 stealth which is more than ample volume for me. Also a a couple of PU boards but they not relevant to this.
Felt the CC this weekend and it feels right at 6'0. Thanks for confirmation.
Cheers