MB pro model

[norberg]

Hi Nev

I see that the MB board is finally out. Can't wait to order one. Quick question though. The 6'4" is 2 3/4 thick which is a lot more than what I am used to(more used to 2 1/2). I do not think I will mind the thickness as long as it is located in the center of the board and that the rails are not to beefy. I'm 92kg and 6'3".

Would you compare the rails with the Flexfire 6'4 or are they way thicker?

[Chris]

hey norberg, the volume IS towards the middle of the board and the rails are designed with performance in mind! Keep in mind, the longer lengths of this model are stepped up versions of Michel's board. as a result, the board works insane and you won't find yourself fighting the volume or shape of the rails. They'll be working with you!!!

cheers!

[norberg]

Hey Chris


I wasn't sure to ask you or Nev this question so that is why I posted this thread twice on your forum. To make it easier, lets stick to this one then so you don't have to answer twice:-) Thanks for the great feedback and I am getting closer to deciding on the right board.

I am currently loving the 6'2 quadra-5 and looking for more of an allrounder with a touch more volume, but with more refined rails than the spitfire. Would you compare it to the Futura or more like the spitfire?

Also, can the board be ordered through the norwegian rep now or is there a waiting period for them?

Finally, for my weight and hight, would you pick a 6'2 or a 6'4 for more quality waves?

Lots of question here, but really appreciate all the info I can get as I will not be able to have a feel of the board before ordring

[prjwebb]

Just to add the information to this thread, Chris posted in another thread that they will be releasing thinner versions of the MB model later in the year with specs hopefully coming this week.
Not sure how much thinner to expect, but I'd like to see maybe 0.18" - 0.25" off each for us lanky guys.

[norberg]

That sound absolutely perfect. I want that one then:-) Will wait and see what Chris comes up with. Just feel that the 2 3/4 might be a bit thick for me.

Cheers,

[Nev]

Hey noreberg...The 602 Quadra 5 is 31.6 liters and the MB 602 that is 2 11/16" is 32.4. It is narrower but a little thicker.. Considering all that has been discused with the guys above I would stay with the 602 x 19 x 2 11/16. It will float you better than the Quadra 5 but be more high performance / tighter in the pocket for those sick Norweigen pits you guys revel in!!

[norberg]

Hey Nev

Thanks for the feedback:-)
Due to my weight(92KG), I am supposed to have more volume in the board than the quadra-5, but it still works really good in smaller waves. However, I feel that the volume isn't enough in more hollow breaks like Indo f.ex and that it feels a bit to loose for those conditions.

I was therfore thinking that i should go for the 6'4 due to the volume and that I would get a longer railline, which should make the board hold in better in everything above headhigh. However, I was bit hestitant in regards to going as thick as 2 3/4. As I will not be able to check out the board before ordering, it would be great to know what board in the line I could compare the railvolume too.


Sorry for all the questions, but have ordered boards earlier from other brands which are not working at all. Firewire's have always been great so really need to pick the right size now.

Do you still reckon that I should go for the 6'2?

Really appreciate all your feedback guys, cheers:-)

[Chris]

Hey All,
Check it: http://www.firewiresurfboards.com/quiver_boards.php?boardid=michel_bourez

FMB_508Q-02 5' 8" 18 1/4" 2 3/16" squash 24.7
FMB_508Q-03 5' 8" 18 1/4" 2 5/16" squash 24.7
FMB_510Q-03 5' 10" 18 1/2" 2 7/16" squash 27.2
FMB_510Q-02 5' 10" 18 1/2" 2 5/16" squash 27.2
FMB_600Q-02 6' 18 3/4" 2 3/8" squash 29.9
FMB_600Q-03 6' 18 3/4" 2 9/16" squash 29.9
FMB_602Q-03 6' 2" 19" 2 11/16" squash 32.4
FMB_602Q-02 6' 2" 19" 2 7/16" squash 32.4
FMB_604Q-03 6' 4" 19 1/4" 2 3/4" squash 34.6
FMB_604Q-02 6' 4" 19 1/4" 2 1/2" squash 34.6
FMB_606Q-02 6' 6" 19 1/2" 2 5/8" squash 36.8
FMB_606Q-03 6' 6" 19 1/2" 2 13/16" squash 36.8

[prjwebb]

That 6'0" x 18.75" x 2.38" is my dims all over. I think the volumes need updating compared to the thicker dims though! I'm a little bit gutted that it's going to be so similar to my CBD board else I'd be pre-ordered up by now!

[Chris]

Good call. just sent it to our web guy.

here are the correct dims.


MB_508Q03 5' 8" 18 1/4" 2 3/16" 23.4 Squash
MB_508Q_V2 5' 8" 18 1/4" 2 5/16" 24.7 Squash
MB_510Q03 5' 10" 18 1/2" 2 5/16" 25.8 Squash
MB_510Q_V3 5' 10" 18 1/2" 2 7/16" 27.2 Squash
MB_600Q03 6' 0" 18 3/4" 2 3/8" 27.7 Squash
MB_600Q_V2 6' 0" 18 3/4" 2 9/16" 29.9 Squash
MB_602Q03 6' 2" 19" 2 7/16" 29.8 Squash
MB_602Q_V2 6' 2" 19" 2 11/16" 32.4 Squash
MB_604Q03 6' 4" 19 1/4" 2 1/2" 31.6 Squash
MB_604Q 6' 4" 19 1/4" 2 3/4" 34.6 Squash
MB_606Q03 6' 6" 19 1/2" 2 5/8" 34.5 Squash
MB_606Q 6' 6" 19 1/2" 2 13/16" 36.8 Squash

[prjwebb]

On my god, it's perfect :'(

[Chris]

don't fall into the grass is greener trap....your board is going to rip.

[prjwebb]

Haha yeah I know. That MBs going to be a sick one though. At least I know if anything happens to my CBD down the line, I can pick up an MB off the rack and not be lost to the world!

[core personal training]

phill, yours will be in before this is available so you'll be ahead of the crowd..!!..the thinner 602 is calling me....but so is the razor...need a heavy rocker/flexy replacement for my "bad back days" so the MB may win out...hellfire the rest of the time...!!

[norberg]

Hey guys

This is really great. The 6' 4" 19 1/4" 2 1/2" is exactly what I am looking for.

Don't want to wait til May:-) ha ha

[Nev]

Noreberg...Just lost your post trying to insert pictures!! Arrrrgh!

Anyway, to cut a long story short my reccomendation to you is to go for the 605 Hellrazor. It is 33.5L The 604 MB is 34.8L and the 602 QF is 31.7 This is way to little volume for a guy of your height and weight and where you surf (bloody Viking!) with wetsuits etc. You will not notice the length in a negative way with this board mate. You will go...O.M.G what was I thinking on 31L?
Hope this helps. I will post the images from my design program to show you what I mean.

Keep ripping mate

Nev

[Nev]

I have lost this 3 times mate...I will try again. Sorry

I'd go for the 605 Hellrazor at 33 5L
604MB is 34.86...For you it would be good but I reckon the HZ is the go.

You NEED a 604 or 605 for your height and weight. The QF602 is way to little volume for you and where you surf. You will be blown away how good the Hellrazor goes in all conditions.

What's your email as I wiill send you some screen shots to show you what I mean. This is why I lost all previous replies...trying to include photos!!

[Fritzkat]

Thinking about the michel bourez MB_606Q 6' 6" 19 1/2" 2 13/16" 36.8L Squash.
Hows its rocker comparison, Will it be an easier paddle than the Hell fire? I have the Hell Fire 6-4 at 36.7L and I need to get it moving real fast on a glassy performance wave where is has no problems at speed and manuverability ~Love that board. Too bad the waves are subpar most of the time.
I weigh in at 200lbs, I am part Giraffe 6-6 with long legs, I have been really spoiled on the 6-4 Dominator 41.5L catching everything, guys in the water ask me all the time what I am riding lately. Dominator is great but I need that inbetween board for when its a little punchier but not quite HellFire glassy and hollow and more than the mushy light waves Dominator excels on.

[norberg]

Hey Nev

Thanks for the followup:-)

I know I should have bigger boards, but I feel that I cant move the boards around when I go wider than 19,5. Might be a mental thing though. I have lived in Perth for a few years so used to surf Gnarloo, Margs etc and basically looking for a board that performce in quality waves when I travel. I basically have boards for Norway, with way more volume.

For some reason, the quadra5 actually workes for me, even with the low volume. However, keen on getting a bit more volume and I was thinking around 33-34L. Also, I prefeer HP boards to be around 19" wide so thats why I am looking at the MB.

Would love to see picture so my email is: [email protected]

Again, thanks for the great feedback Nev

[norberg]

Hey Nev

Not sure if you received my email: [email protected]

Do you have picture of the 604MB 34.8L as well?

[Chris]

Hey norberg,
we don't have pictures of all the different retail models at this point but you can use the one the website to get a good general idea.

Cheers

[kdropin]

how does this bad boy paddle?? chris you think this could be a daily driver on the east coast? waist to chest to shoulder/head days? thanks!

[kdropin]

i'd be on the 6'0 as well 2 3/8 one

[Chris]

Yeah Kdropin, definitely could, it grovels really well. Actually I am really liking the feeling of volume AND tail rocker. it makes the board go well in average surf, but still perform when the wave is proper. the industry has really trended towards flatter overall rocker so we are used to all this speed, volume and shortness, but the Michel brings back rocker with out hammering versatility so you can really rip it.

East Coasters should rejoice with this one. Say good by to the chippiness of the Taj/Flexfire and embrace the usability of the Michel. think waist high plus unless its SUPER mushy. Board will max out when you would be stepping up from your regular shortboard.

Stoked

[kdropin]

thats what i like to hear.. the more i've been thinking i want to get back to a more "standard" type shortboard that still paddles pretty well.. i really miss a standard squash as well. i feel like i surf the best off of one.. at 170ish 6'0 2 3/8 a good call for east coast waves for me?? will you be riding the thinned our mb in the 6'0 when you get it or the original thicker one? i'm usually right around your size boards which works great to be able to bounce ideas off you.. stoked on this one as well... thanks!

[Nev]

Hey Noreberg...Did you make up your mind? I actually replied to this thread 2 times and both times I lost it somehow...It didn't go up! I got so pissed I gave up! ha!

Anyway the Quadra 5 is not enough volume for your weight and where you surf. I know you wull be way more stoked with the 604. You won't notice the 2 3/4" thickness in the water, trust me. You'll be flying!

Nev

[norberg]

Hey Nev


Ha ha, no worries.

I am kind of leaning toward the thicker MB 6'4:-) It sound like a perfect match. I am only curious to how refined the rails are so would be great to be able to compare it to another board in the line before pre-ordering it.
I have a few FW boards to compare with so which one would be the closest, you think?

Spitfire 6'2
Flexfire 6'4 x 19"
Altenator (old version) 6'4
Quadra-5 6'2
Taj (old version) 6'4

Cheers,

[norberg]

Hey Nev

Not sure if you got my last post. I have a MB604 2 3/4 locked in at boardshop.com.uk, but havent confirmed it yet. Bit curious to see your response on my previous post:-)

Cheers for all the great feedback,

[dawnbuster]

Hi there Chris,are we any closer on getting some dims for the mb pro model as in nose and tail widths or will they be in compare boards in the near future.Just interested in the 6 ft board and trying to work out if the volume at 29.9 liters is going to be enough float for me at 5'10 and 83 kg.I see you have the 6 ft model .
How does she paddle. Could you possibly measure the nose and tail on your stick and post results.Thanks old chap!

[core personal training]

hey dawn...im 90 and a bit....i ride 28-29.5 lts... i will probably ride the MB in 602 29.8...probably...still nutting it out...may go razor instead...struth, who knows...!!...i'll end up on whatever our guru and leader tells me to ride..!!..

"the leader is good, the leader is great, surrender your will, as of this date....

i hope everyone watches the simpsons or that quote will make me sound like a member of the moonies..!!

[drumbull]

prjwebb,

Is there a thread anywhere you discuss what you did with your CBD Taj?


That 6'0" x 18.75" x 2.38" is my dims all over. I think the volumes need updating compared to the thicker dims though! I'm a little bit gutted that it's going to be so similar to my CBD board else I'd be pre-ordered up by now!

From what I have read the MB & Taj have very similar rockers so maybe just more of a foil, concave and outline difference. Would be interesting to see a side by side comparision. I am also thinking of getting a Taj CBD FST and beefing up the 5'11" or 6'0"...

Keen to hear how it goes.

Drumbull

[prjwebb]

There's a post in the CBD section.
I took the 6'0", thickened it up to 2.38", which is the same as the 6'2", then took the wide point up to 18.81". I was looking for 18.75" but it has to be in 1/8" increments so needed to be just over or just under. Over seemed a better idea.
I maxed out the nose width to get it as close to 12" as possible, can't remember exactly what it came out at, 11.88" possibly, and put the tail width up to 14.75".
The volume came out at 27.99l which is slight less than the 6'2" but I think with more of the volume being under chest it should paddle a little easier and be more stable.
Overall a shorter and wider outline than the 6'2" which will hopefully increase its lower range, but it should still go mental when the waves get good.

[drumbull]

Thanks heaps prjwebb,

I'm sure it will be a keeper. Will look across the way at the CBD thread and keep an eye out for any feed back.

Sorry for the railroad everyone...

So that Michel Bourez model. Looks like a great sled...

Drumbull.

[prjwebb]

Fingers crossed. Shouldn't be too long now before I get to try it. If I hadn't put the order in I'd be putting one in for an MB for sure. I think that's going to be a magic board.

[Wandi]

There's a post in the CBD section.
I took the 6'0", thickened it up to 2.38", which is the same as the 6'2", then took the wide point up to 18.81". I was looking for 18.75" but it has to be in 1/8" increments so needed to be just over or just under. Over seemed a better idea.
I maxed out the nose width to get it as close to 12" as possible, can't remember exactly what it came out at, 11.88" possibly, and put the tail width up to 14.75".
The volume came out at 27.99l which is slight less than the 6'2" but I think with more of the volume being under chest it should paddle a little easier and be more stable
Overall a shorter and wider outline than the 6'2" which will hopefully increase its lower range, but it should still go mental when the waves get good.
Look forward to reading a review in the near future
Sounds like a great design

[Chris]

that is definitely going to be a fun one Prj!