Lost F-1 Info

[Chris]

The "Formula 1".... is inspired by the ultimate performance of F1 racing cars. The perfect combination of speed and turning. Everything I have learned in 20 years of shaping, influenced by working with the best shapers and surfers in the world culminates into this. What I consider to be the perfect combination of both drive and glide with both carving arcs and tight radius turning. It features design elements from every high performance model we have ever made (From the SD series to the Whiplash and Psycho Ward). Simply put, it's our take on the modern, cutting edge, high performance short board. Now available in FST technology.

Lost F-1 Quiver Page (http://www.firewiresurfboards.com/quiver_boards.php?boardid=lost_f1)

[Bas]

Hello!

since 2 months i surf the Firewire Lost F1 5'11.
Very nice board and it really flies!

Since this morning i found out that de deck has delaminated. There is a patch(bubble) about the size of my hand, right under my front foot.
It did not take any water i think, since there's no crease or hole. It does feel like there is a bit of pressure under it. I can't make a photo of it, cause you won't be able to see it.

Serial nr: 52269-1

Could this be a production fault?? I'm only 62kg, about 1.75 high, and didn't surf it in heavy conditions. We are travelling to sri-lanka next week for the next three months. after that a visit to friends in thailand, so i'm not able to visit a dealer / factory.

What's the best thing to do? Cut it open and fill it up with resin??? Leave it this way?
Hope you can advise me what to do.

Thanks !
Bas

[Bas]

I have some pictures of the damage, but i can't post them on the forum? Keeps on giving me the message ''upload failed''.

[prjwebb]

Try hosting them on photobucket and then upload via URL and uncheck the box that says about remote linking.

Regarding fixing, is there any authorised repair centres near you? I think vacuum bagging would be the best way to repair it. I'm sure Chris will get in touch when he see's this and take care of you.

[Justin]

I have some pictures of the damage, but i can't post them on the forum? Keeps on giving me the message ''upload failed''.

Bas, I just test posted a pic and the upload functionality seems to be working for me ... how are you trying to upload? if you hover over the 'edit post icons' there's a green square with a tree in it, hover over that and it says "insert image" ... are you using that or something else?

thanks prj, appreciate the input

[Bas]

Thanks prjwebb,

We're in Sumatra right now, so there won't be anything around for a ''vacuum bagging'' The closest we get is in thailand, phuket at the end of march. Just for a short week to meet friends, after that we hit northern sumatra again...
Any options for a quick-fix?
Posted the pictures in the 'insert image' here in the forum. I'll try it again...
Thanks!

[Bas]

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[Bas]

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[Bas]

it's my toe side of the board that's delaminating.

[Chris]

Hey Bas,
I am going hit you back via email.

Thanks!

[Bas]

Thanks Chris,

Looking forward!
Just put a line around the place so it's better visible for you.
It actually grew over night! There's a fair bit of pressure in it, and i'm sure there's no water under it.
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Even a my back foot there are a lot of dents, no biggy but there's a 3 year old firewire flexfire here, surfed a lot more, harder, and that board has none!
Thanks!

[Bas]

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[Bas]

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[Bas]

Chris,

there are more places where the deck delaminates. A few little spots between my front and back foot also appear to delaminate. The rails and bottom are still perfect.
It's been sitting inside for a day now and there is still al little water comming from the vent, don't know if that's an issue, just want to give you as much info as possible.

Greets!

[Bas]

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In front of the tailpad a lot of dents.

[Bas]

[email protected]

Hey Chris,

Still waiting for your email. Could you please contact me as soon as possible? Don't know what to do with my board!

Thanks!

Bas

[prjwebb]

Hey Bas, those dents by the tail pad are just dents you you get from knee knocks etc from popping and duck diving.
Front foot area looks like a bubble though as you said.
Have you mailed. Chris? [email protected]
Link to this thread and I'm sure he'll catch up with you.

[Bas]

The dent's in front of the tailpad are not the main problem! See the pictures. Bummer, don't have that with my other boards!

The top layer at my front foot is delaminating as we speak, and i'm not even surfing it !!!!!
Pretty shit quality if you ask me!

Mailed chris a few times already.
Nothing from him.

Got chris his phone number for me ?

[prjwebb]

I don't have a phone number, sorry. Try and stay patient, I know it must be frustrating seeing your board like that but if you can stay calm it makes the process much easier.
It's possible the guys are having a little time off for the Holidays, I know Chris is back in Maine with family so he might not be so hot with the emails for a day or two.
I'm sure he'll pick things up real soon.
Thanks!

[stylar]

I have a question about the volume of 6'3 model,
My 6'3 x 19.5 x 2 3/8 doesnt have the volume printed on the rail. But when I got it a year ago I pretty sure it was advertised at 29.7. But when I look at the F-1 page is states it's 28.9.
Today in two different shops I saw the 6'3 x 19 x 2.5 volume at 28.9. So either the wrong volume is being printed on the rail or the F-1 info page and the board comparison is wrong.
My F-1 feels great and volume feels spot on my 30ltr mark so it feels like it is the 29.7 ltr
Can anyone clarify which volume is correct for both boards?

[Chris]

Hey Stylar,
post your dims and serial number.

Thanks

[stylar]

Hi Chris, I'm not really concerned with my board, it works great. The issue I'm trying to work out is if the website is wrong.
My main reason is I was looking at the hellrazor in 6'1 at 29.1 ltr, and looked at the F-1 info page and it stated my dims FF1-603Q-05 6'3 x 19.5 x 2 3/8 is at 28.9 ltr, so based on that the 6'1 hellrazor would work.
What made me check again was I saw 2 F-1 boards in store with FF1 603Q-03 6'3 x 19 x 2.5 have 28.9 printed on the rail. This is what I remember them to be when I bought my board the FF1 603Q-05 was 29.7 which is just under my taj at the time of 29.9
So Chris can you check what's printed on the website is correct
FF1-603Q-03 6'3 x 19 x 2 1/2 29.7
FF1-603Q-05 6'3 x 19.5 x 2 5/16. 28.9
Or shouldn't it be the other way around
FF1-603Q-03 6'3 x 19 x 2 1/2 28.9. ( dims of boards i have seen instore)
FF1-603Q-05 6'3 x 19.5 x 2 5/16. 29.7
I used my better sense of judgement and went with the 6'3 HR. But don't want anyone else to be confused by this if the info page is incorrect.

Thanks Chris

[Chris]

Hey Stylar, the website is actually correct, so the dims listed below are what to look at.

Cheers and thanks for the extra attention. Hope the 603 Hellrazor works!

FF1-603Q-03 6'3 x 19 x 2 1/2 29.7
FF1-603Q-05 6'3 x 19.5 x 2 5/16. 28.9

[stylar]

Thanks for your help chris. You might want to pass it onto quality control that there are 2 F-1 boards that I have seen with the incorrect volume written on the rail 603Q 6'3 x 19 x 2 1/2 @ 28.9.
I will keep my 6'3 HR for heavier stuff, and will sell my 6'3 F-1 for a 6'0 Michel.
A bit blown away by how well my F-1 paddles then if it's only 28.9 ltrs and me at 90+ kgs.
I haven't quite clicked with My F-1 anyway, it's been hot and cold, I think the extreme pulled in rounded squash in the last inch or two, doesnt have enough bite in the tail, and I feel at times its about to slide out on hard bottom turns.
Maybe it needs a fin that has a lot of rake in it for more hold, because the board turns on a dime.
Thanks

[stylar]

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Found this pic from the old website listing the dims of the F-1, again it supports the 603Q5 @ 29.7 and the 603Q3 @ 28.9. So again I'm confused.
With board volume being an integral part of choosing the right board, in the end I hope the right info is posted.

I'll leave it in your trustworthy hands Chris to sort it out.

Cheers stylar

[Chris]

Stylar not sure where that one came from.
But as we previously discussed:

FF1-603Q-03 6'3 x 19 x 2 1/2 29.7
FF1-603Q-05 6'3 x 19.5 x 2 5/16. 28.9

Thanks!

[DISORDER]

I just traded my Futura in for the 6'1 F1 and really like it so far. I also have a 6'2 Taj that is my go to shortboard for overhead stuff but wanted something a little different. So far Ive ridden the GMB-5's exclusively & had no complaints but just got a set of H3 larges Im stoked to try.

Ive been riding Firewires for probably 4+ years and have ridden pretty much every model. My advice to anyone in between volumes or lengths is to go with the smaller & surf the hell out of it. You always want to buy a board above your ability that you can push yourself on.

Volume does not make up for poor fitness no matter what you ride.