Activator

[Chris]

The ACTIVATOR is best described as the DOMINATOR 2.0, built on the same platform but with a double-wing swallow tail configuration. This tail design takes some of the bulk out of the DM’s fat thumb tail allowing the board to turn even sharper, and includes the ‘pivot-point’ of the swallow tail design which many surfers enjoy. For those looking for slightly enhanced performance over the DM, but with all of the wave-catching ability of the original design, the ACTIVATOR will add some explosive performance to your ‘in the pocket’ surfing while still sailing over flat spots.

http://www.firewiresurfboards.com/quiver_boards.php?boardid=activator

AVAIL 4/15

[Fritzkat]

Has anyone seen or ridden this board yet? I am very curious to the tail dimensions as its not on the Compare boards menu yet...And I wanted to see where compares to my other 3 boards.

[justo]

Seems kind of like a swallow tail spitfire.

[Fritzkat]

I was hoping the tail was closer to the Rusty Pirahna or My Rawson Hyper Skate 2

[Chris]

Hey all,
that info will be uploaded to board compare relatively soon. Just have to finish gathering and prepping it all for upload into the Board Compare platform.

Regarding the Rusty Piranha, I feel it has a little less volume, a bit more refined overall but I may have to hold that Rusty board again...

[Fritzkat]

I agree, The Rusty Piranha has less volume and as an EPS its too stiff. I saw a few here and there on Oahu and a local friend has one. I held off buying it after I got the Dominator. I am looking forward to the Firewire Activator, as I like the sharper tail release a swallow tail has off the top. hopefully a 6-5 Activator will be in a shop soon near me.

[thisisharmless]

Is the Activator suited for larger waves than the Dominator? Does it sit somewhere between the Spitfire and Hellfire?

[Chris]

yeah i would say it is. Its more refined, has a little less volume and a touch more rocker to go along with a slightly narrower nose and tails.

I think you would ride it similar to slightly better conditions and will stand out at the "better" end of the spectrum while the dominator will still crush the bottom end of that range.

Cheers

[prjwebb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BimMPe7aQts

This one seems to be flying a little under the radar but looks like a fantastic board!

[scott]

when's it coming out?? i was about to buy a spit but could be talked into this!

[kdropin]

i think august???

[prjwebb]

Middle of April it sounds like

[Fritzkat]

nice tail, should be loose to throw around fan sprays

[Fritzkat]

I plan on getting the Activator to Augment/the Dominator as I like a tighter arc and free tail movement from a swallowtail. Never been too hip on Rounded pin tails and Diamond tails unless its a down the line wave with longer lines to draw. Most of the waves here are reef with alot of cutbacks and in the pocket play. Conditions vary greatly in a moment. Dominator has been great on the drawn out waves. But I am finding my limits of hard cutbacks, pocket and off the top snaps in the Dominator. Always like the Swallows better was waiting for the Variation to come to the dominator. I hope that double wing Swallow will be pulled in tighter than the rounded pin is. My former Short board was 14.5 inch tail. . this could be a Good Play on that shape. Anyone with an idea on the tail dimensions?

[Fritzkat]

Chris or anyone have you rode the Activator yet.. ? I have a Board purchase due for this next summer season and dont want to get the wrong one. so far its a toss up between the Activator (@6'-3" or 6'-5") , Hell Razor (@6'-7") or the MB (@ 6'-6") my target volumes ideally at miminum 35L on performance to 42L on mushy.

Since I have longer legs with wider stance and big feet I am leery of getting the 6-3 Activator if the midpoint is too far back and end up obscurly riding the tail.
Any thoughts from those who rode it yet?

[Chris]

They are still a few months away, May or June, but it might depend where you are and what tech you are after.

Cheers

[seabass]

I am about to order one of these anyone got a comment on rapid or fcs all my FW to date been fcs thought try something different scared about the strength and flex being a lot lower them expected and what is the new Eco friendly material only seen on brochure haven't read anything on net is it strong and flex like to do right thing if possible thanks

[cuttlefish]

Is the Activator called a Detonator in Australia?
I saw one in our local surfshop today and thought to myself, "Self, what is this thing"?
Dom like outline in front of the board but with a double bump into a narrower swallow tail.

[prjwebb]

I think that was the name it was going to be called surfing the sample phase. Probably one of the earlier sample/pre production models.
How did it look?

Seabass, the Ecoflex looks to be a combination of the Crossfire tech combined with an eco resin. Looks great to me. According to the brochure the Sweet Potato, the Dominator and the Longboards will be available in this tech. To me it looks like the perfect blend of techs. I love the Balsa rails and flex pattern of the FST construction, but love the looks and impact resistance of the bamboo Rapidfire skins. Eco resin is a nice bonus too!

[iggy]

The potato in crossfire must look sooooooooo sexxxy!!!!!

[prjwebb]

There's a video on YouTube from Sacred Craft or another show where Mark is being interviewed and shows one off. It does look amazing. The Dom would be very nice also.

[iggy]

Hey PRJ can you post the link??

[prjwebb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8c5hj6Ebro

[iggy]

thanks buddy

[iggy]

Guys with Futures doing coloured fin boxes, maybe putting those in black would look even sexier!!!

[Fritzkat]

Ecoflex ??? this needs a new thread

[Fritzkat]

I notice that video of the Sweet pot has Bamboo on both top and bottom and balsa parabolic rails. Is this the ECO flex?

[Chris]

Hey all....

To clarify....

ENVIROflex: nothing has been built but its coming.

also we will be building boards with some colored fin boxes in the futures. don't sweat it!

[seabass]

Sounds good the Eco flex but can't wait the board disease is to strong still can't decide between rapid or fsc for this board least for once I know what size I want......jackknife next after this little beauty sorry potatonator your on the back burner for time being.

[iggy]

FST advocate!!!

[seabass]

Ordered 6'1 FST Futures and it's not even Xmas

[Chris]

ha awesome

[Fritzkat]

Ok, Japan has some different shapes going on, what puzzles me is how close the Jetonator looks to the Activator or maybe closer to the jacknife., both offered in Japan. Narrower tail maybe? Activator=Dominator 2.0 and Jetonator=Dominator 2.3?

[prjwebb]

Detonator was an early Activator. It was just a name used in the testing stage I believe.

[Fritzkat]

Prjwebb, the japanese site says "Jet"onator not "det"onator. unless that is one in the same. No Biggy, just curious.

[prjwebb]

Hmm looks like a different one again. Maybe they changed Detonator to Jetanator? Looks like an interesting one.

How nice does the Blurr look! And The Furnace.

I like the Japan section of the site. It gives you options to choose the decal colours when you place an order etc.

[jakob]

yeah blurr and Furnace looks sick. Why are they only for Japan?? I want one or two... :)

[prjwebb]

I think because boards are so expensive in Japan they offer unique boards suited to there conditions to give them incentive to buy the boards there. Kind of like albums having Japanese bonus tracks on because it's often cheaper for them to import a CD bought online than to actually buy it from a local music store.

Not sure if that's 100% the case with the boards but it could well be. Maybe it's possible to special order a Blurr or Furnace? Might be worth talking to Chris about.

[Chris]

Hey guys,
just a heads up. With the way customs are, people were buying boards at shops in the states and bringing them into Japan and selling them for less on the gray market. As a result, to protect honest Firewire distributors, we developed a different catalog. It really was the only way to grow the brand in Japan. You are welcome to order from Japanese dealers, but it is unlikely that you would want pay for the freight.

Cheers

[jakob]

Hey guys,
just a heads up. With the way customs are, people were buying boards at shops in the states and bringing them into Japan and selling them for less on the gray market. As a result, to protect honest Firewire distributors, we developed a different catalog. It really was the only way to grow the brand in Japan. You are welcome to order from Japanese dealers, but it is unlikely that you would want pay for the freight.

Cheers

Bummer, but then there is another excuse to go to Japan :)
jake

[seabass]

Hey Chris still waiting for my activator to come one question just out interest do you think a activator with few more liters will pick up waves better then a sub scorcher should say junk waves looks to have less rocker then the sub. Thanks

[Chris]

yeah an activator with a bit more volume will for sure pick up more waves than a sub with a little less.

[seabass]

Thanks, nearly went down the ptnator path over the weekend demoed one , had some fun on it, but thought about it and i'll wait out the Activator, SP 1-3, Sub 2-6 with go in it messy or not and the Activator for those days the Sub doesn't do it which is rare but it does happen.

[Chris]

good stuff sea bass.

[seabass]

I should get it any time now.....i will give a run down once I have a few surfs on it my biggest problem now is Fins....thinking controllers for the quad set up and MB 2 or AMs for thruster.....I think i'll surf the board as a thruster but i will give it a go as a quad. I won't konw till I get my hands on it a get a feel of the tail size.

[STC67]

Any feedback yet what fins are going to work in the ACTIVATOR? Will it prefer quads or thruster?

Anything From Dan Man?

Thanks

[STC67]

Just paid my money and ordered my new Activator. Should be here next week as I think they are in OZ now.

I feel like I am taking a bit of a punt as I haven't seen one and no real reviews on it yet but I have faith in FW to produce a good design. I went 6'11 and at 52 litres it is right in the middle of the recommended range of the new volume calculator based on my age , intermediate ability and weight. I am hoping for a bit more performance than the Addvance without losing too much paddle power.

Firewire have such a diverse range it is so hard to make a decision. I looked closely at both the Dominator and Spitfire but just liked the look of the Activators slightly narrower tail. I intend to surf this board in waist high to my max of 1&1/2 head high (maybe slightly bigger if they are fat old man waves).

Now for Fins !! I will try some MR TFX with varying size trailers for a start. I dont have any quads to try yet.

See you in the water.

[Chris]

stoked STC!!! let us know how it goes!

[seabass]

Byron beachies today glass head high a bit uneven a bit full but nice if your not to fussy. board paddled like my old Dom picked up waves the same. Once up and moving I could feel the difference in tail its responsive as Nev said once you get the speed up it is no effort to turn the board back into the pocket(suited the wave) and drive back out, straight up to the top, up down, super fast then straight back perfect. Did this a few times to get the feel then i started to really drive hard off the bottom up hard snap with small fan of water off the top then gracefully down. Played on about 15 waves and thats what this board is it feels like a board you go out and have fun on play on and I think it's a positive step and a alternate version of the Dom, never tried a spit so don't ask. It's not better then the Dom it's just different. I will post more over next week interested in anyone else's thought and it looks great also set up thruster I think the tail is to narrow for a quad but will try it out fire wire is always a surprise take the spud first time I saw that I thought it was a piss take now it's one of my favorite boards all time

[prjwebb]

sounds good! i reckon it looks like a great board for smaller days at breaks where you still have a bit of push and quality to the wave. i bet on the points when it's chesthigh and fairly clean with a good pocket, but not firing by any means, that board would be so much fun. i bet it'd hold it's own when it's firing too though.

[STC67]

BUMMER !!!

Ordered my 6'11 Activator on the weekend. I called the shop today hoping I could pick it up and head to Byron for some of that Seabass beachie action (after the Dawn Service) as the forecast is looking good. WONT BE HERE UNTIL LATE JUNE. And then they tried to sell me a McTavish Bobsled. I was feeling comfortable about the 52 litres of volume being right for me. Should I drop down to the smaller 6'9 at 46.8 litres, or maybe go a 6'8 Dom at 50 litres. I really wanted this board to compliment my Addvance, particularly when the waves were nice, including a trip to PNG later this year.

[terry]

MMMMM Bobsled. Now thats a thought.

[STC67]

MMMMM Bobsled. Now thats a thought.

Nah, I have 3 mates with them. 2 sold them as couldn't do a bottom turn. The 3rd loves it. "one mans trash" I guess. The Carver on the other hand is a seriously good mid size board for head high and above. I could have used one at Greeny this morning for the bigger sets that were coming thru fast. Easily 1 1/2 head high and the ADDvance felt a bit corky. I think with surf like that I don't quite need all that paddle, I end up taking them late anyway. Making the drop and a bit of width/length for stability combined with a bit of rocker helps cover up any lack of ability.

[terry]

Ah yes. You don't hear too many bad words about the Carver. I have a Mctacish Original and absolutely love it to bits. It is a great beach break board that can be nose riden as well. It is blowing a gale from the west here, so the surf is almost dead flat.......spose I will have to mow the lawns. Ha. Good luck with the search. I am trying a few boards, there atre no Addvances around here. The El Fuego looks interesting as well.

[seabass]

Secret spot this morning well not really secret but uncroweded with good banks for a change and i don't want those Queerlanders turning up spoiling it. Activator went like a champion a phar lap after a good sleep. I have got my feet in the right spot i think and this board flys. It paddles onto waves super easy and once your up it just wants to go. I am finding a bit of a problem coming off the top hard finding i have to really push it and it feels the design doesn't want to do it. saying that to float off the top or just do a nice cut back it loves its easy. This board loves to cut back then power back out again. Its really stable in a foam ball if taking off in one or you end up in one while cutting back it seems to stay balanced and just cruises out of it. had it on some bigger sets up to half over head no worries and grovelled inside to see how it would go a and same still went good picked up waves and powered down the line. I am not a aerial man but it feels it wants to take off and it feels like you could do tricks etc. I got a an amazing long ride yesterday on a 5ft wall super clean super crowede but this board just allowed me to zip through the crowd and maintain the speed over those flat spots you have to take to avoid some board house wife on a mini mal, i had a ball. STZ67 hold off mate its worth the wait.

[Chris]

Hey STC i told the AUS crew to chime in if there is anything they can do to expedite. I am not sure there is though as I am in the states...

[seabass]

Set it up as quad.........fast

[Fritzkat]

PHOTOS SEABASS please PHOTOS

[naturallines]

Hi STC

Looking at the volumes of what you are currently riding i think you could get away with the 6'9" and possibly get more performance out of this, as its is almost 6L less than the 6'11" and still 2.1L more than you El Fuego. Just checked our stock holdings and unfortunately there is no 6'11" available until June but the 6'9" is available now (whilst stock lasts). Hope this helps a little

[STC67]

Hi STC

Looking at the volumes of what you are currently riding i think you could get away with the 6'9" and possibly get more performance out of this, as its is almost 6L less than the 6'11" and still 2.1L more than you El Fuego. Just checked our stock holdings and unfortunately there is no 6'11" available until June but the 6'9" is available now (whilst stock lasts). Hope this helps a little

Thanks Raz, I am going to have a play with the Elf for a month or two. More of an experiment that anything to see if I can surf a board with such a dramatic drop in volue from the Addvance. I am also going to use it as a guage for what size my next board will be. Sounds like the bigger sizes have been popular or was it just lower no.s of bigger boards you got in.

Raz, if you are from the Currumbin factory I would like to thank you for the service the staff from Currumbin gave me. Much better than the local shop I had been dealing with.

Cheers

[gkekoa]

Chris this is gkekoa, is there anyway on oahu we can get some demo boards for bigger guys and some bigger boards in the surf shops in town honolulu area like pipe dreams or tropical blends? its really hard to buy a board when i only see 5 foot boards for small guys. would like to see boards that are in the 6'4 range hybrids and HPs. and would like to demo them before dropping the big bucks. it says on your web site that tropical blends is a demo shop but they have none. i know north shore surf shop has demos but thats far away. honolulu would be a more central shop for more people to check out. hope firewire can make this happen, mahalo, g

[Fritzkat]

Hi all and gkekoa, Just placed an order for a 6-3 RF Activator in futures.

Will test drive when it gets here in 2 weeks and post photos (detailed) and comments on the board.. if its not enough board/volume for me, I will sell ASAP and get another at 6-5, or a Hell Razor.

Aloha from the Big Island

[Chris]

hey gkekoa,
Actually demoes are available to all shops, the only thing is each shop has to buy them. So ultimately its up to them. maybe just mention it to your local dealer so they can be aware that there are people who would take advantage of the service.

hope this helps!

[Fritzkat]

Holding breath on the Activator order should be shipping out soon...... Surf forecast looks weak, just my luck when it gets here, it will be flat again for a spell. Busting out the C-7 Great Wave Carver for exercise. Wish a neighbor had a wave pool to play on... You guys on Oahu, always have waves, a skatepark, skim boarding or that wave pool to fool around on.

[Fritzkat]

Activator 6-3 Rapid fire in Futures recieved today. Very stoked, just what i expected, but the waves are flat to try it out.

Comparison wise just as youd expect a 6-3 to be a scaled version of a lrger 6-4 or a 6-5 (6-4's dont exist in Activator so I chose the 6-3 instead.)
6-3 Activator Skegs setup is narrower (1") than the 6-4 Dominator and just slightly narrower than Hellfire.
Nose and tail rocker slightly more than Dominator almost a smidgen less than the Hellfire
Width in the tail is narrower than the Dominator and smidge narrower to the Hellfire, but still pulls in more on the last 7 inches of the tail than the Hellfire. Looking at the tails the double bump swallow shows alot of change in surface areas.
the Hellfire has more concave than the Activator, while the Activator has just a seemingly smidgin more or the same concave as the dominator.

here are some comparison photos to a 6-4 Dominator and a 6-4 Hellfire.
There wont be any surf until next tuesday here..
Here is the 6-3 Activator over a 6-4 Dom
680

Here is the 6-4 Hellfire top of the 6-3 Activator on top of 6-4 Dominator
681
682
684

[iggy]

Thanks Fritzkat, pretty usefull!!!

[gkekoa]

Tnx great pix, tell us how it rides, if there's any waves coming, hoping an praying .

[Fritzkat]

just a heads up, there is an NEW 6-7 Activator FST for sale with FCS at Pacific Vibrations in Kailua Kona, Hawaii Island

[Chris]

Once again Fritz, thanks for the info! Great stuff!

[prjwebb]

Checked out the Activator in my local dealer yesterday. Looks like a really nice board actually. A little more refined than the Dom as has already been pointed out. I couldn't buy one though because I know I'd keep dinging all the corners of the wings haha.

[Fritzkat]

Just prematurely surfed my 6-3 Activator today, on crappy, dissapointing less than knee high slop waves to me. Now a 6-3 is the smallest board I have ever ridden, but I had no problems paddling it into these crappy waves and standing my 6-6 foot 200 pound long legged giraffe body on the board. There were no faces to manuver on, so I could not throw out any snaps, I did manage one good cutback that did not hang up.

I should have waited for real surf instead of slop that could have used a sweet potato or a long board. Trade winds are forecast to tuning for a swell thursday Head high. Will ride it again then.

[iggy]

jajajajja there is always an excuse to take the board out... in this case you tested the lowest range the board can handle!

[Fritzkat]

Victory at sea chop today, high wind warnings, will have to wait for the trade winds to clean up and be surfable, Activator is itching to be in the water....almost as bad as waiting for the baord to be shipped here..

[surfgumby]

Fritzcat, hope you can scratch that itch and Activate out your dreams soon! Look forward to the report!

[iggy]

jejejeje...waiting for that report over here as well

[Fritzkat]

third session out today, good fun in the slop caught alot of waves, paddling a breeze, having more fun than on the dominator, got some high snaps off the top and decent cutbacks. hoping for a semi decent day where the wind is not over 10 knots onshore and the swell is pushing stong

[Chris]

yeewwww fritz

[Fritzkat]

6-3 Activator NOW my favorite go to board after this 4th and 5th sesh today. My set up was the AM-2's 4.79" front fins with the Rusty 3.85 quad rears. waves were fun waist to shoulder high reef break peak. loads of fun everything connected, late drops, snaps, cut backs, although i stayed away from the last snap on the wave face as it emptied out into shallow reef ding your board territory. Easy paddle, turns and drops. Very fun loose feeling, I did not have that extra wide tail slogging a quick tail turn, I went mostly front side as I continue to find my balance sweet spots. will plan on riding a large rear quad fin (stamps 4.0 once the waves get over head if I dont take the 6-4 Hellfire or Quadra -Five out)

Sorry 6-4 Dominator, your on the shelf until I get a ding or its super mushy down the line. (still love the Dom but I am having way too much fun on the Activator.)

[Tininho]

Hi Fritzkat,
Why did you bought a 6'3 Activator and not a 6'5? If 6'3 Activator has less volume than yours 6'4 Dominator.

[iggy]

6-3 Activator NOW my favorite go to board after this 4th and 5th sesh today. My set up was the AM-2's 4.79" front fins with the Rusty 3.85 quad rears. waves were fun waist to shoulder high reef break peak. loads of fun everything connected, late drops, snaps, cut backs, although i stayed away from the last snap on the wave face as it emptied out into shallow reef ding your board territory. Easy paddle, turns and drops. Very fun loose feeling, I did not have that extra wide tail slogging a quick tail turn, I went mostly front side as I continue to find my balance sweet spots. will plan on riding a large rear quad fin (stamps 4.0 once the waves get over head if I dont take the 6-4 Hellfire or Quadra -Five out)

Sorry 6-4 Dominator, your on the shelf until I get a ding or its super mushy down the line. (still love the Dom but I am having way too much fun on the Activator.)
Wow looks like somebody was having fun!!!!!.Thanks for the insight!!

[Fritzkat]

Tininho,
6-3 Activator , since i am comfortable with the volume already on my Quadra - five and Hell fire. 37L and 36L (all completely different boards) the dimensions are scaled down tighter than the DOM and its tail is pulled in allowing more play, tighter turns on the waves. I can say this will be my daily go to board.

the 6-4 Dominator I originally got at that heavier volume to be a "groveler" plus board for mushy powerless crowded waves, made it easy on me to paddle into most everything thats not too hollow. I see it as more of a cruiser than a performance board for me.. (most people would have gone to a Sweet pot, Baked Potato, Potatonator or addvance) the wider tail on the DOM makes great heavy carving sprays, but not tight enough for me like a Hell Fire does and now the Activator. I would have consider a 6-2 Dom, but since the 6-3 Activator, I am pleased with the new board.

[Tininho]

Thanks Frizkat!
Do you think a 6'5 Activator for my daily board will have too much volume? I am an intermediate+ surfer. I have 34 years, 6,3 tall, weigth 200 pounds plus wetsuit. The waves out here are mostly beach and point breaks.

[Chris]

Hey Tininho,
I think you could make arguments for both. Fritz rides warm places with no suit and good waves so I am thinking that being a competent surfer, having a slightly larger frame and the presence of a wetsuit, you might benefit from having a little extra volume over Fritz's 603.

The 605 could be a good way to get small wave versatility without sacrificing a lot of performance.

Hope this helps!!

[Tininho]

Hi Chris,
It helps a lot! Already ordered a 6'5 Activator.
Thanks

[Chris]

stoked on the support!! let us know how it goes!

[Fritzkat]

Tininho, I agree with Chris, that extra 10 pounds of wieght and rubber, youll probably need a floatier board. I could be wrong, unless you get out everyday and are in top shape.

Keep the 6-4 Hell fire in mind, after you get spoiled on the 6-5 Activator.

[Tininho]

Thanks Fritzkat!

[seabass]

Prjwebb I just noticed you have a Minnie driver FST ?????? Have I been asleep for that long

[prjwebb]

Prjwebb I just noticed you have a Minnie driver FST ?????? Have I been asleep for that long

Ha! Just sold my Sub Scorcher and pre-ordered one. Won't be under my feet until September time though.

[seabass]

Does anyone know when minnie driver available in FW Currumbin

[Goanna]

Does anyone know when minnie driver available in FW Currumbin

I'm hearing around December

[STC67]

Would an Activator have too much cross over with an ElF to have both in the one quiver?

[prjwebb]

I'd say no. The activator will love the more pockety conditions where the Elf is more suited to down the line stuff.
Depends on the conditions you like the Elf in I guess and what you find it limiting in.

[Chris]

Yeah it depends too on what else you have in your quiver. Its important to look at CONDITION overlap and individual quiver need.

I think having boards that overlap in the conditions you would use them in is great so long as their performance characteristics are different AND you have other areas covered.

I would personally address holes in wave size first, so if you have no small wave or good wave board, cover those bases first. Then you can turn your attention towards getting a more specified hybrid. The truth is, most of us spend a majority of our time in similar conditions so it certainly makes sense to have a couple different options for those days. It kind of comes shown to being a personal call...

Cheers and hope this helps further.

[madprof]

Probably one of the most under-rated boards in the Firewire range, I've had so much fun on a 5 9 Activator, those wings are just fantastic look way better when you get your hands on the board.

[meekthefreak]

Madprof, can I ask how much you weigh? I have a 5.11 and think that I am overvolumed right now. I was training heavily for hockey when i ordered mine and thought that I was going to end up over 180 and need lots of volume. The 5.11 catches waves like a beast and has tons of speed in small surf but I have to load up on the tail more than i would prefer when turning.

[madprof]

I weigh about 165 lbs and am probably about 5' 9" tall (don't know for sure!). If it helps, I also ride a 5' 8" Dom and 6' 1" Hell Razor, both work well for me.

[Chris]

hey madprof thanks for the good words!! yeah its a sneaker!!!