Baked Potato in RapidFire only?

[csarqui]

I posted this question in another thread but I think it got buried. I noticed that the Baked Potato web page only displays a picture of the RapidFire version. Does this mean that it will only be offerred in RapidFire?

I'm asking because I like the Baked Potato shape over the Sweet Potato. But if it's only offerred in RapidFire I'll go for the Sweet.

Thanks.

[cuttlefish]

I called the Firewire crew in Qld yesterday to ask them about fst and they told me not until next year. :-(

[daven]

bummer!

[csarqui]

Oh the sadness. FST is at the core of my Firewire purchases. OK, eyes back on the Sweet Potato then.

[cuttlefish]

No fst stopped me in my tracks as well. :-(

[Freaked_Out]

Me too, I will wait for FST. I like rapidfire but prefer FST if the board is a keeper and the BP looks like it.

[Danga]

Get the FST oven baking potatoes NOW.

[jneave]

No fst means no baked for me

[LagoonSurfer]

What do you guys have against bamboo? Just curious. I have an FST sweet potato and have ridden it for over a year. Love it! But I just picked up a RapidFire potato yesterday in a smaller size. It's beautiful. I have a bamboo log made by a local shaper that I love (the log) to and the RF SP compares totally to it.

[prjwebb]

Nothing wrong with the bamboo. I just like the added strength in the rails from the balsa. Crossfire is the best of both for me, great looks and rock solid all over.

[LagoonSurfer]

I will def always keep the FST tater in the quiver 4 sure just because of its extreme ruggedness.

[prjwebb]

I've got a 2 year old rapidfire Spitfire that's still going great though. A few little patch ups but they still hold up great and are super light!

[LagoonSurfer]

Thanks. So RF is basically like a regular construction epoxy board or perhaps a little bit stronger in terms of wear and tear?

[prjwebb]

The bamboo layer is stronger, but the rails and bottom are just epoxy, fibreglass and EPS foam so they will be the same as other EPS/Epoxy boards.

[Chris]

yessir!!!

[csarqui]

My experience with the Bamboo deck (on my first Spitfire) was on par with a PU board. It seemed very soft and there wasn't much deck left that didn't have a pressure ding on it. But I am very rough on my boards.

[cuttlefish]

It doesn't help if you're a big unit.
That's the thing with forums.
One guy (a lightweight) can be commenting and saying how they only have "light heel denting" or "deck is still perfect" and then a heavyweight can be be putting big footwells in the same kind of deck.
That's why we all should fill in our stats.
If only I could figure out how to do it.
For me, the fst is the stronger option at my weight (92kgs), when chasing durability.

[cuttlefish]

Tried to update my profile.
Don't know if it worked?
Test. test. One two three.
Cheecckk, one, two, cheecckk!
Bugger....Fail!
Try again.

[prjwebb]

Need to turn on your signature Pete.

[cuttlefish]

I've got it sorted.....I think.

[prjwebb]

Sorted!

[cuttlefish]

And with my fin preferences too.
Not a bad idea eh?

[FW - Fan]

It doesn't help if you're a big unit.
That's the thing with forums.
One guy (a lightweight) can be commenting and saying how they only have "light heel denting" or "deck is still perfect" and then a heavyweight can be be putting big footwells in the same kind of deck.
That's why we all should fill in our stats.
If only I could figure out how to do it.
For me, the fst is the stronger option at my weight (92kgs), when chasing durability.

I agree with this. Its FST only for me...If the BP was made in FST I would have already bought one. Chris..is the BP definitely coming in FST or is it still a "MAYBE" right now????

[indodreaming]

Ive been planing on getting a Sweet potato but after what I've seen/read on the baked potato, i think it looks like the go...but I'm like a few other guys here, Id only buy it in FST...its a no lose situation in FST, if the board is a keeper it will last, or if after 6 months you decided to move it on and sell it just give it a good clean up and you have an almost brand new board to sell.

[cuttlefish]

I've had a good chat to JaM71 and a trusted staffer from my local surf shop about their baked experiences and I'm going to wait.
To salve my pain I'm going to get another fst sweet potato in 5'10" to tide me over. Had another ride in dribbly 1' point waves yesterday on the 5'10" and found it a lot easier to catch waves and run over the really dead sections compared to my 5'8". The 5'8" is still a blast in 2-4" waves if I don't have too much of a crowd to contend with.
The sweet will still be my uber grovellor because I will still take the sweet potato and the potatonator and be ready for everything in the sub 5' range for my locale.

[benny81]

Think I would wait for FST too, had two Spitfire's and creased one then sold the other after 6 months whille it was still worth some coin. Love the look and feel of them though, especially in smaller surf. On the other hand if it lasts a year then atleast you get the stoke of buying a new one when its on its last legs :-)

[FW - Fan]

Come on Chris..gives us poor suffering FW fans the news (good or bad) will the BP be definitively coming out in FST? and if so when?

[Chris]

I don't have an exact answer for you but like a few boards in the past, we had to push back the release of the second tech by a few months.

Cheers!!

[pagey]

I am very happy with my Baked Potato in RapidFire. Glad I didn't deprive myself of all this fun just because of a construction preference.

[FW - Fan]

I don't have an exact answer for you but like a few boards in the past, we had to push back the release of the second tech by a few months.

Cheers!!

Ok ... so definitely coming but we have to wait a while ?? Dont mind holding off if I know its coming. By the way is W RF going to be as strong or stronger than regular RF??? Thanks.

[cuttlefish]

As of this morning I'm now the proud owner of a quad, Futures shod, 5'11" RF baked potato.
I know I said I was going to wait for an FST and get a 5'10 FST sweet potato to tide me over but opportunity knocked and I answered the door.
Stoked! To use a retro term.
Yeeew is so 2011.
Lol.

[DGR]

I recon RF is the way to go for small wave board anyway. Having to fix a few dings is worth it for the extra performance. I just ordered a 5'7

[benny81]

Ha! Good effot Cuttle! I dont think i'll be able to wait for the FST either. Looks like the inbetween brother of the PN SP

[prjwebb]

Very interested in your ride report Pete. I reckon you'll love the weight of the RF.

[Chris]

yeah RF weight is a bit below FST and it DEFINITELY shines brightly in smaller surf!! There is no doubt there!

[suncoastslop]

[QUOTE]yeah RF weight is a bit below FST and it DEFINITELY shines brightly in smaller surf!! There is no doubt there!/QUOTE]

Cuttle, ref recent posts about the sweet p as a 0-2' board and the volume/sizing issues, with your transitions between boards, rf 6'0 sweet p, rf potatonator, 5'11 rf baked p, and the fst 5'8 sweet p, do you think there is something to be said for the extra weight of the fst being the limiting factor? in sub 2' waves?

would a 5'8 rf sweet p been the answer? retaining the smaller volume with less weight, against the fst with more weight.

As you downsized from a 6'0 rf sweet p, it will be interesting to see if the 5'11 baked in rapid fire will now be the tits, being 1' smaller, slightly less volume then the 6'0, slightly more then the 5'8 and lighter being rapid fire construction.

Im still not feeling the 5'8 fst sweet p in 0-2' conditions,


suncoast

[cuttlefish]

But...sorry have to ask again...what fins are you running in it?
Haven't got a hold of the Baked yet.
Hopefully getting brought up from the Goldie tomorrow.
Re the sizing I'd say it was more a question of finding the ideal volume and also discovering the big difference made by using the Indo controllers.
Talking about small waves here and paddling to catch them.
The 5'8" spud (which I still have) is great once up and riding but it in crowded conditions I was lacking a bit of paddle power.
The big difference supplied by the Indo controllers is most pronounced in the 0-3' range. Once larger I'd go to Stretch quads.
Keep in mind I'm used to the potatonator which catches waves much easier.
It's a planshape difference I reckon as the wide nose of the spud is a slower flat water paddler than the potatonator with the more pulled in nose.
Once the wave is picking you up then the wide tails of both help in getting the board up to take off speed.
I'm used to heavier boards and like their paddling momentum so the difference in weight inbetween the rf and fst shouldn't hinder paddling speed.

[suncoastslop]

cuttle,

future controllers,

maby i just need some more vol for 0-2' range, as we currently have the same size/construction sweet p's, ill be waiting to hear your impressions on the baked when it arrives to compare

Suncoastslop

[cuttlefish]

It's arrived so maybe with a bit of luck the SW change will come through and clean things up. This arvo or tomorrow morning should be on for a test ride.

[JaM71]

It's arrived so maybe with a bit of luck the SW change will come through and clean things up. This arvo or tomorrow morning should be on for a test ride.

You need to update your signature grasshopper (this will be a fulltime job with your track record lol!).......so how did your baking go and did ya get those controllers?

[cuttlefish]

Whose track record are we talking about here?
Let's get a last 12 months board shuffle comparo going between us.
But wait....not a good idea in case our wive's stumble across this thread.
Had a short surf on the baked (with Futures controllers) yesterday arvo at low tide, peaky, 2-3' Alex corner.
The baked paddled well in the flats and is super easy to catch waves on (it would want to be at the volume I'm riding it at).
I'd say even easier than the 5'10" sweet potato Rf I've surfed.
Got the "wet bar of soap" feel straight off the takeoff like a well sized spud too.
I was in a hurry but got a couple where I could do a bottom turn and up into a crumbley lip which the baked happily did.
as usual the waves were backing off as soon as they broke but the baked would skim across the dead water with ease.
Need to go back and have a relaxed surf this morning to dial in my feet placement and explore cutbacks on it.
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Live reports from the beach to continue...if I can just get the water out of my monitor.

[cuttlefish]

Just had another surf on the baked and used AMT robber fronts and controllers rears.
Waves were only 1-2' but nice clean little point peelers.
The AMT's in the front made the board a lot more responsive and so much easier to go vertical.
Brilliant combo which I doubt many will ever get to try because whose got a set of Futures Robbers and controllers lying around?
883

[prjwebb]

Hey Pete I'll upload a photo of my current fin set up after work. Not sure how well it goes as conditions didn't allow many opportunities last night. It's a lot of fin though. Felt fast on rail but not sure about turns yet.

[cuttlefish]

That's the thing...what works for me at 90kgs and 6'1" can be too much fin for lighter, shorter surfers and that's one of the reasons I put my fin choices in with my stats in my signature.
That Robber (AMT) controller combo made a big difference in what I could do on the smaller waves I had today.
Yesterday I was thinking I wasn't sure how well the Baked would go in smaller waves but the Robbers in front with much less rake than the controllers but still with cant and plenty of area for me delivered the drive with a good loose feel.
It's a shame they only make both Robbers and controllers in one size that doesn't fit all.

[indodreaming]

http://www.naturalnecessity.com.au/shop/products/FIREWIRE-BAKED-POTATO-FST-SURFBOARD.html

I see baked potatoes in FST are advertised as coming soon at natural necessity good, to see the price between RF and FST is only around the $100 mark also, which is good as in US I noticed there isn't as big difference in price between tech as there is in OZ.

Tempted to order one but think you have to pay now and misus will kill me, but might be worth it.

[cuttlefish]

You won't be disappointed.
A more hp spud ride is not to be missed.

[FW - Fan]

http://www.naturalnecessity.com.au/shop/products/FIREWIRE-BAKED-POTATO-FST-SURFBOARD.html

I see baked potatoes in FST are advertised as coming soon at natural necessity good, to see the price between RF and FST is only around the $100 mark also, which is good as in US I noticed there isn't as big difference in price between tech as there is in OZ.

Tempted to order one but think you have to pay now and misus will kill me, but might be worth it.

Dont be so sure the Baked Potato is DEFINITELY coming out in FST. I was at FW headquarters last week back and forth for a couple of days and all they have been told is it MAY be next year but there are other models coming out as a priority. Its why I bought a White RF rather than wait...I would rather FST but there is no guarantee its coming out.

[benny81]

Dont be so sure the Baked Potato is DEFINITELY coming out in FST. I was at FW headquarters last week back and forth for a couple of days and all they have been told is it MAY be next year but there are other models coming out as a priority. Its why I bought a White RF rather than wait...I would rather FST but there is no guarantee its coming out.

Gotta see a pic of this WRF Baked?? sounds awesome!

[prjwebb]

You won't be disappointed.
A more hp spud ride is not to be missed.

I'm so 2010 :(

[kdropin]

i want to know what new models are coming!

[cuttlefish]

I'm so 2010 :(
I'm probably mistaken but I thought FW-fan had sold off his sweet potato/es so directed at him.
I reckon for those happy with their sweet potatoes there's no need to replace it with a baked.
But....many will anyway.
Just look at Ipads.
:-)<

[prjwebb]

Yeah I won't be changing mine.
Wrote off the large H2 fronts and K2.1 fronts as rears setup the other day. Stupidly fast in a straight line on a steeper wave but in smaller, weaker stuff it was very slow off the mark, really sticky when getting the board moving rail to rail and stiff as hell to turn.
Trying the H2 fronts with the SF4 rears next. Might end up with pure freeby SF4s after all this...

[cuttlefish]

Another surf in 2-3' clean point waves and the baked potato with the Robber (AMT) fronts and controller rears continue to impress me with how good they feel.
Not sure how I could make the board go any better than it does with this fin combo.
A day of high and and a little speed bump low.
Copped some abuse from a female longboarder who dropped into me and and late in the wave decided to fade (she had no idea I was on the wave behind her) just as I had done a pump for speed into a top turn. I'd been happily going top to bottom behind her as she trimmed straight along on the shoulder out in front of me out. Caught me a little off guard and I actually fell off trying to avoid her and our boards touched.
She straight away gave me an earful (maybe she thought I'd tried flicking my board at her) for hitting "her" and dropping in on her.
Fortunately the Southpoint Bonga Perkins she was riding would need to be thrown off a three storey building to ding it (unbeknownst to her apparently) and luckily my new baked was unscathed.
First collision in the water I've had in a couple of years too.
Then another male longboarder paddling past and decided he should berate me as well.
I was told by him I should go surf the beachies since I was on a shortboard.
Not well received by me since I ride all manner of craft.
Fortunately I had a longboard on the car so let him know I'd happiy go and get it if I wanted but Nah...was having too much fun on the baked.
Later saw one of the sweet potato riders (5'10") who was shocked when I made one fast section on the baked (I was too actually) and it's done his head in because now he wants a baked too.
:-)

[suncoastslop]

arhh northcoast points on a weekend, gota luv em. mostly full of self congratulating mal/sup riders (im not going to say old cuas there is plenty of younger ones two) that hoot them selves into waves only to regale the story to there mates later on how impressive there performance was..........when snap back to reality most of the time they cant string a bottom and top turn together, Burn people (even there own kind) at will and bail there boards with no regard for others (usually in in dangerous situations). And no a straw hat, jeans and a flano(or combination thereof) as a surf attire fails to impress me as much as your leg rope around your knee........arrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhha i can go on and on and on but i wont, so to all those guys and gals that rip on mals, hats off caus there is nothing better then seeing a 9'+ board being ridden like a short board, and to the rest of you mal/sup tards out there, it better to just shut your mouth when you f@#k up. by the way i also ride a mal

sorry for the rant but having nearly been mowed down buy an out of control sup and burnt buy a healthy selection of mal riders i needed to vent,


Cuttle good to hear the bp is working out,is the bp looser with the robbers, then the standard controller set?

My sweet p/future controllers performed well in the 2-4 point waves as it has previously but had none of the sliding out which had hindered me last time, have not given the injury long enough as i missed many waves unable to paddle at 100% but its getting there.

suncoast

[FW - Fan]

I'm probably mistaken but I thought FW-fan had sold off his sweet potato/es so directed at him.
I reckon for those happy with their sweet potatoes there's no need to replace it with a baked.
But....many will anyway.
Just look at Ipads.
:-)<

100% disagree. The SP is a much more clumsy and awkward board than the BP. Having ridden the SP's extensively and then getting on the BP...It was night and day. FW didnt make the changes without reason.

[prjwebb]

Don't say that!

[cuttlefish]

That little incident happened this morning (Monday).
It was actually much more full on crowd wise Thur/Fri/Mon as all the 9am club are a very sizeable contingent.
Sunday was way more relaxed.
Re fins: With Robber fronts/controller rears still got all the drive of the controllers full set but much more responsive in the turns and I can choose to carve in a cutback or let the tail slide with ease wheras the full controllers had more of the twin keel feel.

[cuttlefish]

100% disagree. The SP is a much more clumsy and awkward board than the BP. Having ridden the SP's extensively and then getting on the BP...It was night and day. FW didnt make the changes without reason.
I suppose my viewpoint is skewed from surfing the sweet potato on high tide, soft point waves (hence packed with longboarders) which rarely show the clumsiness that you've experienced.
Rode a 9'4" longboard yesterday (Sunday) and that's what felt really clumsy after a few days on the baked.
The sweet potato is super popular around here.
The baked is just further evolution of the Simmons based design for me and I'm happy to be getting amongst it on one.

[FW - Fan]

Don't say that!
sorry mate but its pretty obvious isn't it? It was for me the first wave I had on a BP. I think the BP will ultimately supersede the SP...just my opinion but I don't see the point of both....sorry.

[prjwebb]

Yeah if the BP was available in FST when I bought my SP I would have gone with that instead, but for the kind of surfing I'm looking to do when I take the SP out I don't really need more performance. Just looking to have fun when everyone else is struggling on their 'proper' boards.


sorry mate but its pretty obvious isn't it? It was for me the first wave I had on a BP. I think the BP will ultimately supersede the SP...just my opinion but I don't see the point of both....sorry.

[cuttlefish]

sorry mate but its pretty obvious isn't it? It was for me the first wave I had on a BP. I think the BP will ultimately supersede the SP...just my opinion but I don't see the point of both....sorry.
I doubt the Spitfire has superseded and consequently outstripped the Dominator in sales but it's a similar performance change.
Will the Potatonator going the other way on the performance spectrum supersede the Dominator?
The salespeople in the surf shops are always keen to have a new model to sell and the baked will be a little less alien looking to the rank and file surfer looking for a mush buster.
Putting in a 5 fin option should help sales along nicely too.
The time lag in bringing the Baked potato out in FST rather than a simultaneous release in both techs would seem like Firewire have tested the waters so to speak.

[indodreaming]

Dont be so sure the Baked Potato is DEFINITELY coming out in FST. I was at FW headquarters last week back and forth for a couple of days and all they have been told is it MAY be next year but there are other models coming out as a priority. Its why I bought a White RF rather than wait...I would rather FST but there is no guarantee its coming out.

Oh no don't say that, i would't be surprised if your correct though....

Maybe i should just buy one in Rapid fire then get rid of it when or if they come out in FST.

[cuervo]

hey guys,

long time observer, first time poster on this board. just wanted to add that i too would like to see the BP in FST...my prefered choice would be a 5'3 FST w/5-fin future setup. while i still may consider scooping up a BP in rapidfire, i can hold off until at least next year before making that purchase. whereas if said prefered board were available today i don't think i would be able to resit making an impulsive purchase...

thanks,
cuervo

[Bigblackdog]

Rang the local FireWire dealer today to place an order for a 507 baked potato. At least an 8 week wait before anything is available. Oh well , at least the water will have started to warm up a tad down here. Would seem that there is a bit of a lottery as to whether any ar available in the white rapid fire.

[Boxofkittens]

Any update on an ETA for the baked in FST? Im really keen to grab one, but I prefer FST over RF.

[Jakee]

Has anyone tried the RF with carbon fibre strips on the rails? Never seen one around and I'm curious :)

[surferireland]

strips are just painted on

[chris27]

Instead of making a new thread, I thought I would ask here. Does anyone know if you can order the Baked Potato in a White RapidFire version?

EDIT: Never mind! Found another post that said they were available as a custom order. Thanks!

[K24Surfer]

I tell you man we are in the same boat here! I waited and waited to get that SP, then I had to wait some more to get it with futures, I got it, loved it and now wanting a BP in uh FST of course.

But hey I just bought a PN thinking yea this will be my small wave board only to find out it isn't the SP so can't get sell it. I'm really liking the Tomo but it doesn't and probably won't come in FST and even if it did it won't be the same due to higher weight.

Decisions, decisions what to do? So little time, so many choices, so little money....

[prjwebb]

I'd say with the Baked Potato coming to the kite range that HAS to be in FST with additional reinforcement. It seems unlikely that it wouldn't be offered in the surf range in FST also.
That said, the lighter RF build does lend its self to smaller wave boards better, but doesn't hurt to have the choice!

[Chris]

Yeah the kite baked potato will be the modified FST kite build.

[ScottyDanger]

FST + CBD would be amazing

[Chris]

yeah i am not sure that one will make it CBD in the short term, only because its for smaller waves so the need for ultra subtle refinements isn't quite as necessary More likely would be the addition of even lengths, 506, 508, etc, but nothing is imminent.

Cheers

[Chris]

yeah i am not sure that one will make it CBD in the short term, only because its for smaller waves so the need for ultra subtle refinements isn't quite as necessary More likely would be the addition of even lengths, 506, 508, etc, but nothing is imminent.

Cheers

[ScottyDanger]

Thanks for the clarification. It looks like I had the wrong understanding of the CBD program; I thought that the user could make much more drastic changes (like getting a 5'5 Baked with 29 cubic liters of volume haha). Guess that would be too intense!

The technogrian option is intriguing, especially to my environmentalist side. One of the (many) reasons that I switched to Firewire was because of the company's growing commitment to less toxic surf gear. Obviously, boards have a looooong way to go, but technogrian looks very promising. My only question is durability at

[Chris]

yeah scotty the idea is that we want to maintain the functional characteristics of the shape vs allowing dramatic changes.

As far as technograin durability goes, you can expect similar performance as FST. the deck, bottom and rails are all Paulownia wood making it highly impact resistant and not prone to pressure compression.

Cheers and hope this helps!

[nsjoel808]

What will the price difference be and when?