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  • New VG fin combo you have to try!

    My friend lent me some Sea Shepard twin fins and I can't believe how much I like them on my 5'6" VG. I do need a small 2" trailer but The board comes up to speed much faster and turns much tighter than my other fin set up with Rainbow Fins "speedwings" and the same 2 inch trailer which I really liked but the new combo just works much better all around . Does anyone else have a similar experience with running large side fins combos with the VG. 5"6 VG 157lbs 5'10"

  • #2
    I haven't tried the shepherds on the vg but I've posted on the nano forum about using Futures controller fronts with an SB1 sidebite in the centre box and loving it when the waves are smaller.
    I'm not suprised the vg works well with the sea's getting someone to try them that's the hard part.
    No matter...good to hear you're experimenting with outside the box fin combos and reaping the rewards.
    I can't wait to score a lend of a mate's Aipa twin fins to try in my nano.


    • Peterleo
      Peterleo commented
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      The blackstix fronts I use as rears I just hacksawed the required amount off the bottom of the fins to fit in the smaller rear futures boxes. Loving them

    • cuttlefish
      cuttlefish commented
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      Peter, any twin fin experiments with nanos to tell us about?

    • Peterleo
      Peterleo commented
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      Sorry Cuttlefish I just could not stand up on that board. Still not sure why. The rails were too thick for me. Reminded me of a learners board. But if you look on the Australian Shapers fins website they have a lot of twin fine sets for $40. Reduced from 99. The ones that have the smiling face on them are awesome. and not $180. This is in August 2015. So in the Us dollars its a great deal for about 30 for twin fins. The fcs have three tabs though. The Futures are no problem. Go get a few pairs before they go up again.

  • #3
    Good info. I've never considered trying that type of setup. I'll give it a go.


    • #4
      Wow, that's pretty cool. I wonder what FCS/FCS2 equiv would be? I would sorta think the MR would be sorta close?


      For some reason I've been researching this even though I don't have a Tomo (yet).

      FCS has something similar called FK-2 in PC.

      Base: 7.01" / 178mm
      Depth: 4.49"/ 114mm
      Area: 22.78"˛ / 14698mm˛
      Sweep: 39.2°
      Foil: 80/20


      I couldn't really find equiv specs for the Rasta Keels but I did find this;

      Height: 4.77 in. 12.10 cm.
      Base: 6.79 in. 17.20 cm.
      Area: 24.59 in.˛ 158.64 cm.˛
      Last edited by aurfalien; 08-06-2014, 09:20 AM.


      • cuttlefish
        cuttlefish commented
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        True Ames CI twins more betta...$65.
        Wide base, not too much rake and a narrow tip for release.

    • #5
      I am using a very similar quad set up DVS quad keels, they have the same cutaway at the base rear. Nice and fast but still turn tightly.
      Shapers Fins - DVS Keel Quad (FCS) - Free Postage in Australia


      • aurfalien
        aurfalien commented
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        Thanks Slowman! A site called carries em here in the states so I ordered a set. They look very cool. There are coupon codes out there for this site as well.

    • #6
      yeah that sounds killer slowman.


      • #7
        Follow up on my post with the Sea Shepard fins. This combo is much faster than any quad set up that I've ran and still provides a better pivot than a thruster set up. The VG in my opion is a very stiff board with the rails being so parallel. It might be a matter of style as I like to carve my turns rather than do a tight fin blow turn. With the carve style the rail line of the VG just keeps projecting you forward and add that to the limited rocker it is hard to get release once the rail is set. There are only 2 reasons I ride this board one if it is super crowded as the VG catches waves with ease & when the waves are very lined up and speed is more important than turning. That said, with the new fin combo I think I've got the best of both worlds with more speed and a better turning radius. But, unless the waves are a bit gutless I ride my Nano as it is a much better board than the VG at the same volume. I would like to swap out my 5'6" VG for the 5'5" thicker one but I don't think the expense is worth it. If anyone has some feed back on going from the a VG of the same volume but going +/- I would like to hear your experience.


        • sambone
          sambone commented
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          360 air...I went from a 5'6 VG to the 5'5'. the 5'5 def turn quicker, better and whippier. Same volume so it worked for me.

      • #8
        Hi Sambone,

        Thanks for that feedback! I have 5'6" Nano and a 5'5" Nano and it is really amazing what an inch and just over 1 litter chance to the performance of a board. -Anthony


        • #9
          360air, have you run the same sea shepherd and trailer combo in your nanos yet?
          Can you take a pic of the nano and the vg tails side by side so that I can see the differences in tail width and fin placement?
          Last edited by cuttlefish; 09-25-2014, 02:05 PM.


          • Phill
            Phill commented
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            Vanguard is a good couple of inches wider at the pod Pete, fin placements are the same unless I'm mistaken.
            I want to get some keels to try mine with similar setups. Those pavel keels look good.

          • 360air
            360air commented
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            No my Nano has FCS 2 so I don't have that option. I run AM's in that board mostly as a thruster but for small waist high waves I will set it up as a quad with the AM's

        • #10
          Hey there Cuttlefish,

          Said to say I have not ridden my Nano with the Sea Shepard fins as I have FCS2 fins in the nano, but I will look into a FCS 2 fish fin to try!

          I happened to have had some pics on my phone of just a comparison of the differences between the Nano and VG. These boards are very different and do not overlap that much other than the both work in similar sized waves. I had a bit of trouble when moving over to the Nano in catching waves but over time I made the adjustment which was to be up closer to the front of the board when catching waves as to not exaggerate the rocker that is quite a bit more than the VG. If you are paddling and sinking the tail you are not helping your self. As I surf the Nano in bigger surf the rocker is less of an issue and the wave typically has more push.

          Nano 5'5" FST I do have a 5'6" Nano in LFT too
          VG 5'6" in Rapidfire

          Hopes this helps.


          • #11
            Just bought a set of these Rasta shephard copies in Futures to try in the nano...
            For $55 there's not too much outlay if they suck.


          • #12
            Well the fins arrived. looked good. Only 1 small problem. Put the fins in the box and the leading edge of the fin sits squarely over the top of the grub screw.
            Insert forehead slap here!
            Let the seller know about this sad development and they re-funded my money and let me keep the fins...nice of them.
            So I sanded down the leading edge just enough to be able to do up the grub screw and viola!
            Surfed them today in the nano with an SB1 trailer fin in the middle fin box.
            The waves were running down the line fast with either a floater on the closeout or pull in until smashed the only option on most waves. They did accelerate well and I reckon they will be a better option than the controllers. I believe they are going to turn pretty well.


            • #13
              Bummer about the fin issue uhhhhhh. But I'm glad you got them to work! The new FCS 2 fin sets are the shit. I have to say not having to deal with fin screws has been so nice. The downside is that there is a limited selection of fins right now but that will change.


              • #14
                Did the sea shepard thing a few months back. With a very small trailer dart fin. Was riding vg as quad. Havnt wanted to swap em out since. So much drive when waves are small and still so loose. Too much fun. Took it out recently and swell pulsed during the session from overhead to double overhead. The only negative was the mental side of surfing the sets knowing you are on a twin fin. No other negatives. Fins held in everything, released when you wanted them to. No difference in drive or speed at that size, at warp 10 speed already. Did notice it was easier to get traction on takeoff when vertical, fins gripped with little side slip and launched instantly. And fins held so secure during very deep bottom turns, the only limitations were how the legs were holding up against the force. Highly recommended. Try em.


                • #15
                  Still running my nano with the sea shepherds. Crazy how fast it is with them. It was solid on the beachies last weekend and running mine with a futures nubster in the thruster box I wanted more hold when going into a cutback at warp speed so tried to take it out later...put in an sb1 instead. That puppy is locked in there. Nothing to grip on a nubster when trying to take it out. Anyway it is an awesome fin set up to try if you like going really, really fast on a wave.