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I thought that was the case. Can anyone comment on differences - Technograin and rapidfire
Ok. I didn't realise BP were available in FST. Can anyone explain differences in things like weight/durability etc for BP construction. Thanks
Looking forward to seeing the vid mate!
Just wondering if anyone one can provide direct comparisons between rapidfire and technograin technology on the BP. They are the same price so what are the positives and negatives of each?
Sounds good - anyone got comparisons between the baked potato and the lost bottom feeder for the bottom end of the wave scale....?
Cool thanks...thinking 5'5. How do these compare to js pier pony, lost bottom feeder etc for small small wave riding. I can go pretty small on my hybrid but want something for those days where a longboard seems the only option? Thanks for your help!
What size BP do you think ?????????Hi there,
After some help and guidance for buying a Baked Potato. They look nice. Currently riding hybrid - aloha bean 6'0..good board but want something for those real small/mushy days at my local beachies. BP a good choice do you think?
Surfing at the top end of Intermediate level. Weight 82Kgs/180lbs and height 5'11.
I think a 504 would be ideal but I don't think there is the option so am thinking the 505 for a bit more foam for very small days. I won't use the board for shoulder or above at this stage as have the hybrid.
What size would you guys suggest going?
Thanks for your help!
Originally posted by iggy View PostVanguard 5'6"??? for those air missions it would fit like a glove
THANK You All !! I'm going to rock that 5'10 right away.
I've decided to buy a Chubby Chedda
According to the "Volume calculator" I need Max. 29L (28 yrs, advanced and fit)
Shall I go 5'10, or 5'11?
Cold waters of Portugal, 10-15 Celcius.
Taj - Firewire - 6'4 x 19,5 x 2,5 (too long for small waves)
Rusty Project - Tuflite - 6'3 x 18,75 x 2,18 (too thin for non punchy surf, or mushy waves)
I´m starting to do front side airs, but with the rusty in small waves the tail gets stuck.
I wanna go air wild from now on haha.
Just an update on how the board has fared thus far:
Had 1 short surf with it on the lake before if froze up. Had it out in gutless 1 ft conditions and it fared okay. I didn't really get a feel for it, but considering the air temp was -12ºc, the water temp was hovering around the 0ºc mark, and after 30 minutes I couldn't feel my hands or legs from the knee down i'm not counting that surf against the board.
Took the PN to the Caribbean for a 2 week surf trip and rode it exclusively. Had it in everything from 2 ft - 10 ft faces and it went pretty well. Used the rastas in the small stuff and found it super speedy, managed pretty well through the flats and I had tons of fun lining up laybacks on the end sections! Once the waves got a bit over head it struggled (obviously) but was still fun to ride. Having all that extra volume helped me get in stupid early and with the controllers I was able to get decent hold with a high line and score some tube time.
Biggest downside: Too much foam for the ocean. The board was a bitch to duck dive, and would bounce hard on choppy waves. I think a 5'6" or 5'8" would be choice for me in the ocean. In the lake a 6'0" would probably be a touch better, but I think this 6'2" will be great! Looking forward to the thaw and getting amongst it next season.
Ordered the 6'2". Was on the fence between that and a 6'0", but decided I'd rather have the extra foam under me. Got a set of rastas on their way as well. A friend has controllers and simon's, so we can swap back and forth and see how they handle in the fresh water. Thanks again for the info.
Originally posted by iggy View Post...that little extra volume helps heaps specially during winter with all the rubber on!
Chris: Thanks, that is great info to have. I wrote off the el fuego because of the rocker, it's just too much for my conditions. But knowing that he liked having that extra foam in the board while out on the lakes gives me confidence in the potatonator's ability to perform. Especially when I can cram more volume into a shorter board! I'm hesitant to go any lower than 6'0" though. Based on my current board's estimated volume, the volume of other boards I have tried, and where the volume in the PN is located, but I might ride it for a season and decide it's too big. Regardless, I think I've found the best board for my conditions.
Thanks every one for chiming in.
Thanks for the inputs guys.
Slowman: yeah, buoyancy needs change a lot once you go to fresh water and change again between surfing standing river waves or crappy lake wind swell. It can get good on the lakes, it's just not frequent. I usually won't go out unless it's about 3' on the outside. Any smaller and there's just not enough power in the lake. There's a couple spots on lake superior that can hold double over head and you can get barelled at stoney point in the right conditions.
Here's a little vid of jamie sterling surfing lake superior on a really good day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sMWo...eature=related
Here's a photo of me from last week on a 6'2" sweet potato (this is what my conditions usually look like. Not pictured: 75 km/h onshore winds, and 4 seconds interval, lol.)
Iggy: River surfing is fun. I'm familiar with habitat, though haven't surfed it. I've surfed sturgeon falls a couple times and it's a cool experience. I'm actually in manitoba, not ontario. We have a solid little crew of surfers out here, though we tend to be off the surf map being in the heart of the prairies.
Happy to hear you find the extra volume to be helpful for when you're in the ocean, which was what I was expecting and hoping for. Have you found the extra volume in the potatonator to be a hinderance at all when you're out there?
Yeah, I could get away with a 5'4", but I think it wouldn't have enough volume to keep me surfing as much as I am currently. It would be enough for the best days at my break, but I think I'd be missing out on a lot of smaller days. They really are the most gutless waves ever (see photo above, lol).
The 6'2" potato was great for getting into that stuff, but I found that with that much volume at my weight it was a struggle to duck dive. Also, with the big round nose I would be worried about it getting caught when trying to get vertical in the ocean. I had a look at the addvance, but it's longer than I want to go and looks very similar to what I am currently riding. The sweet potato just out performed my board so much in the smaller waves that I feel a shorter board with a flatter rocker and a wider tail is really what I should be riding.
I have no expectations of catching as many waves as the mals and sups. At present, I'm competitive for waves, I just want to get more radical off the top, and I think the potatonator is what will help me achieve that. Quality over quantity! ;)Attached FilesLast edited by AndyG; 09-16-2012, 08:00 PM.
Potatonator for fresh water surfing?I've been in the market for a new board for a while now and I'm now seriously considering the potatonator.
Here's my vitals:
27 y.o., 155lb, 5'9, intermediate surfer, athletic.
The volume calculator says I should be looking no more than 30L for volume, which puts me on a 5'4" potatonator. Probably bang on if you're surfing the ocean, but take all the salt and buoyancy that comes with the ocean and throw it out the window. Now add 70 km/h on shore winds and you've got my usual conditions.
Here's my situation:
Spent a year living in Australia a few years back. Mostly surfed a 6'6" watercooled flyingfish as my daily driver (guessing it' about 45+L given its dimensions when compared to similarly shaped boards). Moved back to Canada and brought the 6'6" with thinking I wouldn't get to surf much, but lo and behold I found out you could surf wind swell on the lakes and wound up surfing more than expected.
My local break is a shoulder to head high mush burger (on a good day) on the outside, flattens out through the middle, and turns into a slightly steeper 1'-3' on the inside. The break is dominated by SUP's and long boarders, but the 6'6" worked pretty well for the last few years. It performed well on larger, steeper waves, and I could get a couple turns off. The biggest problem I had was getting into the really mushy waves and staying on them through the fat middle section. I could never connect them to the inside. As soon as you step on the tail pad to do a sharp turn you would sink. Just too narrow back there.
I got the opportunity to ride a 6'2" sweet potato (56L) a couple times, had some really fun surfs on the small inside section and managed to get some longer rides through the middle from the outside. However, when the odd steep wall would come through the outside I found the SP didn't perform great and struggled to make the drop without nose diving.
So, here's what I'm thinking:
Probably go for a 6"2' potatonator. Despite chopping off 4", it's still 44L, has a lower rocker and is slightly wider,thicker, and has a wider tail than my current board. The nator has slightly more rocker than the SP, so could handle a steeper drop and larger waves, and the narrower nose would allow for it to get more radical turns. I think the planing surface will be comparable or even greater than my current board. I considered just getting a SP, but I kinda need a 1 board quiver (financially) that will work well in my local conditions and handle something slightly bigger on surf trips.
I think the potatonator checks all the boxes for me at the moment, from what I've read: works best in 2'-5' mushier waves, paddles easy and gets in early, but can still perform in slightly steeper conditions, duck dives easily when compared to other boards of similar volume.
Wondering if anyone has had any experience riding these things in fresh water? Anyone out there similar to my size/ weight riding these things with beefed up volume? How have they handled? Or have any thoughts about riding the potatonator in steeper ocean waves? Anyone been barelled on a potatonator? haha, not the waves it's meant for but I know a few people have mentioned riding them in 6' with mixed results. Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
Mate, I was in exactly the same position as you about 6 months ago - should I get a 5'4 or 5'2. Also, I am pretty much the same size as you, both in height and weight. My other board is a 5'9 El Fuego. Eventually I went for the 5'4 and do not regret my decision. In fact, I love my 5'4, especially on those flatter waves. However, at the end of the day, I really don't think it makes a great deal of difference to the average punter. In the end, I went for the 5'4 to be on the safe side regarding length. I have surfed the board in tiny waves and it is amazing, allowing you to catch waves that you normally wouldn't be able to catch. I've surfed it in waves over head high and again, it was amazing. It has so much speed and drive. Be aware that it does take a little while to adjust to the board and find its sweet spot, but once you do you wont want to get off it. To be honest, I think your biggest decision isn't about size, it's about fin setup. Make sure you get the Future controller set up (or equivalent) as they allow you to get the best out of the board.
I've had my sweet potato for about 6 months now and started on the future controller fins. In fact, when I was purchasing the board I made sure I got the future plug setup so I could put a set of controller fins in. This was all based on the info in this forum and especially Nev's comments in relation to the fins (and the fact that he was using controllers himself). Yes, they are expensive, although I have to say this board (with these fins) is by far the best board I have ever ridden. It is just SO MUCH FUN. I haven't tried any other fin setup, but why would I. The sweet potato and controller fins are a match made in heaven. So stoked I got this board - I feel like a grommet again.
I reckon you should go an El Fuego, or at least compare the elf to the dominator. I have heard mixed reviews about the dominator. The elf has that fun factor. Either that or ask Nev to get started on the procrastinator!
Hey Webster, I pretty much had a similar dilemma to you around Xmas time. I'm 70 kg, live in Perth and wanted something that I could turn yet compete with the longboarders. I was choosing between the 5'2 or 5'4, and after much deliberation I got the 5'4. Awesome board. It did take a few surfs to get used to, and to be honest, I am far from mastering the board. However, I absolutely love riding it and haven't been on my El Fuego (5'9, which is awesome to ride at shoulder to head high Trigg - super fast and responsive) since I got it. It is just so much fun and a wave catching machine. Im catching waves at spots the longboarders surf, it's unbelievable. Furthermore, it's a pretty responsive board, as long as you have your back foot on the tail. I've got a set of controller fins in, although I'm thinking of getting some Scimitars as I have read they are looser than the controllers, which should help in the crappy small surf we get here. Ultimately Webster, I think either board will do what you want it to. Don't do what I did and procrastinate, just get one!!
Hey Iggy, I thought you owned a 5'4 spud?
Justo, a 5'10 spud has just been posted on gumtree. May be too big for you but check it out. Also, there are a few shops around with some 5'6 spuds - Star surf shop in perth and a shop in Margaret river. Good luck.
James, I got the 5'9 a few months back and absolutely love it. I ride it as a quad (SF4s) and have had it in shoulder high waves (gutless Perth waves) up to double over head (powerful West Oz surf) and it has excelled in all conditions. Im virtually the same height and weight as Nev, and an average surfer.
Have you been on the board lately? How did it go?
Hey Matt, how do you find the 5'2 spud? I'm currently choosing between the 5'2 and 5'4. I'd be interested to hear how you find it and surprised that you find it easier to get into waves on the 5'9 elf than the 5'2 potato.
Iggy, how do you find the 5'2? Do you still float over sections? Are you able to get the really small stuff? Oh, and did you consider the 5'4 before the 5'2? Finally, as an average surfer, would I really feel the difference between a 5'4 or 5'2?
Hey jhoyjr, it has been interesting to read your posts, especially your report on riding the 5'2. I have had exactly the same dilemma as you for the last month or so....5'2 or 5'4. Interestingly, I am similar in weight and height to you (154 pounds & 5'11). Unlike you however, I haven't been able to get my hands on either size board as demos in my area are in short supply (ie: non existent). When you rode the 5'2, did you catch waves easily enough? From your report it seemed as though you still had to work the board a little bit on the waves, rather than the board doing the work for you. From the test ride, have you decided the 5'2 definitely isn't for you?
Thanks Iggy, that's what I kind of thought. Now to get my hands on one asap!
Iggy, I'm 5'11 and weigh around 70kg. I've been surfing for over 25 years and would consider myself at a competent intermediate level. I'm keen on the sweet potato but unsure whether I should go the 5'4 or 5'2. I'm like jhoyjr in the fact that I don't want the sp to throw around, more, just to cruise and float over sections on those really small days. Where I live the waves are really quick and lack a lot of shape. I kind of feel like the 5'4 may be too big but the 5'2 will be too small. I would love your thoughts?
Great feedback iggy! Like Erling, I'm deciding between the 5'4 and 5'2 potato and keen to gather as much info as possible before jumping on board, so to speak. Come on Chris, I'm also really keen to learn from your experiences.
Erling, from what I've read the future fin set up (controller fins) go awesome in the potato. Consider going down that path rather than the fcs set up. Even Nev raves about them on the sweet potato video.