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Thanks guys, you rock! Very helpful, I appreciate it!
Thanks slow man, I just read the tread written by Fazza about the JK and I think that is THE BOARD. And sounds like you love yours too, but do you still like your HF better? Thanks for all the help. God bless!Last edited by Marklids; 05-07-2013, 04:25 PM.
Sorry gents, my weight flux between 205-215 depending on where I'm at with my fitness. Sorry, should have mentioned that. Grew up short boarding but last 20 years (pushing 45) been long boarding and also large fish/fun boards. I've pretty much lost touch with the short boarding and board design has changed so much since the 80's & 90s. I'm so used to big volume I bought a 610 SF because the volume was about the same as my last 73 fish. I do enjoy the paddling advantage in the line up:). I am having a ball in it now but took a couple of months. Doing moves I haven't been able to do for years and its got me craving more! the SF gives me some problems on big waves and steep because it sits so high up on the surface it can be hard to control. But it's been a fantastic board to push me back into short boarding. So I was looking for a "next step" toward eventually getting down to a shorty. That's why I was hitting up about how much volume to drop so it won't be too drastic and I could still use the spit for marginal stuff and keep the log on the rack.Last edited by Marklids; 05-06-2013, 09:04 PM.
How about 610 UB vs 702 Alt RT? Both have about the same volume. Better all rounder for everything?
Thanks Buzzy. Robin, what fins do you use? Can your UB handle big waves too?
All of you have great insight and I appreciate you responding to my thread. After all the great advice I'm thinking HF would make the most sense. Just had a question regarding volume. My 610 SF has about 55ltrs volume and 610 HF has around 47. Would I be able to switch back and forth, depending on the waves, between the two with the drop in volume or will they ride too different? Or should I go bigger HF? As it is now my SF is too corky.Last edited by Marklids; 05-05-2013, 01:35 PM.
Buzzy, thanks for the advice and I'm feeling what you're saying about going from spit to hell but I'm still a bit hung up on the UB. And since you've ridden both I have to ask, if you could only have one board and had to choose between HF and UB which would it be and why? Also, which of the two paddles/catches waves better? I typically surf crowded waves so any advantage I can get I'd be stoked.
Thanks for your time
Thanks gents for all the feedback. I think I'm feeling the HF the most but I do want to see a HR in person. And I'm really hoping to at least demo a UB before I drop the $
I have to ask though buzzy, would the Q5 be worth the wait? Can it grovel/surf anything kind of board? I really like the shape, at least on the web site......
SF is def over volumed but has been a good transition from a longboard. Says the balance point is the same on board compare. I assume that relates to your stance on the boards???? How does that rounded tail alt compare to your HF? Saw a used one for a good price but wasn't sure if I wanted to go straight hpsb yet.Last edited by Marklids; 05-01-2013, 12:23 PM.
Looking for a step up, don't really surf heaving barrels much. Did your HF handle steep barrels well? I was looking at the MD but not enough volume for me (bigger guy). Have you heard how does MD compare to UB?
Another question, if I were to get a HF in the same size as my SF (610) I'd be dropping about 8 liters volume. Would I be able to switch between the two if I use SF as groveler and HF for good surf?Last edited by Marklids; 05-01-2013, 09:55 AM.
Thanks for the replys, you guys rock. Yeh Slowman, my gut tells me to go with the HF. Seen em in person and looks like an awesome board and a good next step. The UB just looks awesome but I think I'll have to narrow it down to HF or HR. I have not seen a HR in person. Are the rails more refined than the HF? How do they handle flat sections, mushy waves, or small stuff? In case I only take one board. The JK is a funky looking board but reminds me of my last fish which was a lot of fun. Where can I catch video of HR surfing? Also, Buzzy I see you also ride a Q-5. Is that a all rounder or for good waves only? I just wish I could win the Lottery so I could have every FW board!
Thanks!Last edited by Marklids; 04-30-2013, 11:35 PM.
Need help selecting step upLooking for a step up for my Spitfire. Got it too much volume but will keep it for small/mushy waves. Been eyeballing the Hellfire, Unibrow, and Jacknife. They don't have demos for the size I want (610) so hoping for feed back from anyone who has tried all. Looking for most user friendly all rounder that can handle multiple conditions. I love carving and throwing the tail off the top.
Thanks for any input!
Originally posted by delmarsurfer View PostMarkJ - I think the 5'7 is perfect for you!
I weigh 140+/- and ride the 5'6 CC ...it is awesome! I demo'd the 5'7 and it was just a bit too much volume for me.
Seems like you prefer lower volume boards so could go 5'6 but 5'7 would be my vote.
Any chance you can demo one first?
I swapped the back fin on my flexfire from a F4 to a small kite fin and it has completely changed the board. Much more release on top turns and reverses, without sliding out on bottom turns. I am in love with my board again!
Chubby Chedda size?Hi Guys
I'm about to buy my second Firewire, and am concerned that it may have too much volume. I currently ride a 5'10" Flexfire (22.8l) and am planing to get the 5'7" Chubby Chedda (25.5l). I'm 33 years old, 5"9", weigh 150 pounds and have been surfing for 25 years. I'm looking for a board for waist to head-high beachbreaks for high performance surfing.
I really enjoy the flexfire in good waves, but in average waves it is very unforgiving. When you get it right its spectacular, but get it wrong and its spectacularly bad.
Would the 5'6 be better suited?
When available the full FW selection for kitesurfing without inserts?Hi,
I am about to buy a new board and it's not FW, but I would be willing to put this on hold if you could provide info on when it will be possible to choose whatever model from FW surfboards, but with a no-insert kiteboard structure?
yeh, I have also been waiting for your feedeback on the timing of getting a whatever board as a kite construction. Also, would you be able to give a rough guidance on weight wise, how much a certain type of board weighs in strapless construction, please? I am close to buy a board, but like Mike, I would like to know about the schedule of things here.
markusf started a topic How much HF 5'6 and DOM 5'8 weight with fins? Good for light wind strapless airs?
How much HF 5'6 and DOM 5'8 weight with fins? Good for light wind strapless airs?Hi,
I was all set up on Potatonator (FST) but reading too many threads that the FST structured boards (for surfing) got snapped or huge dents only by surfing I am now considering I might need to get a kitesurf-structured board.
I think my only options now are Dominator or Hellfire 5'6 or 5'10. My two main requirements for the board is light wind plaining AND strapless airs (like rotations) in light wind. I currently have SS strapless version of Tyrant 6'1 for stronger winds and I am now in love with light boards.
So does DOM or HF fit the bill and how much do they weigh together with the fins, please?
Brian, very good info, thank you.
One more thing, your commment on Potatonator got my interest, big time to be honest. I am now thinking abt the Potatonator 5'6 FST as I am 80kgs - 175lbs or so. I will be riding in onshore wind wave conditions mainly. I currently have Slingshot Tyrant 6'1 strapless construction (ie. very light, but heel dentable) and as mentioned I am looking for a light wind board because Tyrant is not that per se. Does the Potatonator fit the bill here as judging it by it's outline etc. it looks really good?
Please tell me that me fears on too much tail rocker for the board to be an early planer is unfounded and also that the board has off the charts speed? Pretty pls. What kind of tail rocker does it have, around an inch perhaps?
As you well know that early planing is one factor for succesful light wind riding and the other is board speed as without speed, the kite cannot create apparent wind and also the strapless jumps are not possible to do...
Thank you very much!
Cheers for the feedback, i was going to demo the BP next when im at the shop, just need some swell that isnt blown out, so i can give it a decent test. As for the bamboo decks, i seriously love them, have only ridden friends boards with them as i have never owned one. Im very interested in getting my hands on one of my own though
I have a 5'6 SP and love it so much, i was looking at the BP for a new addition to my quiver, my mates say whats the point its the same board, just with a different tail, is anyone else rocking both boards and is it really worth going out and spending my cash? Ive had my SP for ages and still froth so hard on it.
And actually one more, very important question: I used to have one surfboard (not yours), which had a lot of toe in leading to very high drag, and in short, this made the board useless for kiteing.
Therefore, are SP 5'2 and BP 5'1 clean in this respect ie. very fast without any drag coming from fin placement?
I highly appreciate your feedback and service here in your forums!
One more thing, regarding the 5'1 BP kitesurf specific model and 5'2 SP FST, which has more tail rocker and weight wise, how much difference there is between the two?
Also, I am in Florida in the end of Feb, do you think the kite 5'1 BP will be available then?
Thank you very much!
markusf started a topic Would a FST Sweet Potato be durable enough for kiting?
Would a FST Sweet Potato be durable enough for kiting?Hi,
I am looking for a light wind board, and I really like Northkites' Nugget which is basically Sweet Potato. However, I would like to buy e real thing and especially I want a light board and therefore I am thinking abt the FST version of Sweet Potato. If I put one extra layer of glass on top deck, would it work for kiting? Naturally I am talking abt riding the board strapless.
I know you have e Baked Ptato coming out, but I think the 5'2 SP would beat the BP in low winds?
markusf started a topic will you make Baked Potato or Sweet Potato as kite versions?
will you make Baked Potato or Sweet Potato as kite versions?Hi,
the headline says it all, will you be doing those as a light wind waveboards for kiting? And if so, when will they be available?
Was also told would be a £100 premium for a custom. Ha Ha if they misunderstood my questions about custom Lost Firewire and want £100 extra on the retail price for a custom poly Lost taking the price up to nearly £599 . Surely not!
I nearly ordered a Custom Poly Lost Mini Driver to be finished by Bulkley on his last trip but went for a custom Bulkley Hipster Quad instead. .
Thanks for the reply. I gave up coming here due to lack of response. I thought there would be a bit more interaction with the people involved in the Custom program as suggested hereHey Folks, here is your chance to chat with the Bruce Pettibone, the man behind the CBD platform. He has questions, you have questions, why not talk about it?
Boardshop told me back in August I could get a custom Lost mini driver.
Are Lost Mini Drivers available in custom?Ideal volume/size for me would by about 5 9 x 19 1/4 x 2 1/4
Would this be available custom to the UK?
Thanks to anyone who answered privately but I have conflicting answers from a UK shop so checking here also.
Also I am interested if the file gets run past Matt Biolos? If I order a custom pu/pe board from Laminations for when the Lost shapers visit UK to finish boards I understand that Matt sends over an appropriate file for the board to be cut on Aku.
MarkLast edited by MarkyD; 08-21-2012, 03:55 AM. Reason: made meaning more clear .
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