Yo stoop,

Im shorter and chunkier than you at around 5'7 and 70kg i recently bought a 5'9 chedda (27L) and feel this is the perfect volume for me to have it as an all rounder performance hybrid.

Pretty impressed with how well it goes in the smaller stuff (flat nose rocker really comes into its own!) and never feels too corky but i supppose its all gonna be about sacrifice and how low do you wanna go?!

Youv got a bit more length to you though which i suppose has to be considered too... hope thats helped a bit!

short and fat like me, a match made in heaven :) thanks for the replies very helpful (your other post too - i have spread myself all over the forums of late haha)! i have my 509 chubby chedda now and cant wait to get a 501 baked potato!!!

Thanks hawaii!

Very helpful! I have a feeling the 501 is the way to go really. It may take a bit of getting used to but in the long run will be so so fun i reckon, and the 503 did still sit right on top of the water... Basically what i was trying to work out is will the design make up for the 1-2L less volume but i think you have answered this! aloha bro!

Yo kiteboarder, im 5'7 and about 70kgs about 155lbs?!?! My 508 spitfire was too big, i learnt loads on it and it went great in the small stuff but i think i wouldve been happier on a 506 or even (pushing it) a 504...

I felt like i couldve gone smaller on the CC maybe 508 but dont want to sacrifice wave catching and it definitely didnt feel corky... Great board!!!

If you like a bit more float i reckon a 510/511 would be good for you depending on what you want it for....

Cheers pm,

i demoed a 5'9 c chedda and i loved it, they offered me the as new demo board for a sweet price so im gonna go with that! surfed it in pretty hollow and punchy 4ft and it went great, i suppose for anythign more id get a true step up but i loved the relatively mellow nose rocker and bottom contours into a whippy little tail on this board!

still havent tried a hf or md but they look sweet too, so many sick boards!

What kind of volume do you ride for more perfomancy short boards? I felt like around 27L was perfect with the chubby chedda for me but maybe a bit less for a true step up... Im gonna have to try the 501 i totally agree about getting a better pump out of a smaller more movey board! I feel like this essentially comes from being able to get the rails in more rather than the entire bpard sitting on top of the water if that makes sense?!

Can anyone on the wave ctahing ability of a 508 spifire 31L vs a 501 baked 29.3? This would really help my decision... Also a 503 baked 32.4...

Yeah i always have this little thought in my head that i should keep the volume up for if i go back to the uk... stupid really as id more likely sell the boards...

Im just gonna have to try out a 501 i think! But i really dont want to sacrifice wave catching as this will be my small wave board... 0-2ft and hopefully something i can take out and have fun on in the tiniest conditions...

Im feeling brave about downsizing though after going from 31 to 27.5L and not feeling much loss in wave catching ability between spit and CC...

Shame firewire in currumbin arent open weekends!!!!

Hey mate the unibrow looks sweet. Have you had a look at the chubby chedda? I went from a 508spit to a 509 chubby chedda (you would go a bit smaller) and i loved it! I reckon you could even get away with going quite a lot shorter... I was suprised with the CC how well it caught waves and its 27.5L (im 70kg 5'7)... If you can a board test is the way to go! It really is all about finding that swet spot volume for your size and for the type/size of waves you are gonna use the board for... If youv got the dom for when its tiny mush why not try and down volume a bit for your step up? 508 unibrow or 508 chubby chedda?!?!

Thanks for the reply...

I had the 501 in mind originally. Then i went out on the 503 and first few attempts at paddling in i was thinking " i KNEW it these things are TOO SMALL" haha. anyway after a little positional rethink i got the thing paddling super nice and was getting into tons of tiny waves... But them that made me think why not the 501?!

I think maybe some time on my chubby chedda (27.5L) will help with the decision...

Also im hoping that firewire in currumbin have a 501 i can demo, ideally in timbertek!

Not sure about different board availability in the uk... Since my last post i demoed a 5'9 chubby chedda and i loved it...

The 5'9s 27L and im 5'7 and 70-71kg but stepping down from my 5'8 SF (31L) i was amazed at how well it still caught waves. Its toted as a small wave board and you can tell from the way it paddles and catches, the bottom contours arent too aggressive and the nose rocker is fairly flat, its got a really nicely refined tail tho and a fair bit of tail rocker. I fund this meant i could catch anythign and if needs be put my weight back and use that til rocker to deal with steep sections and tight turning.

Anyway i returned it and turns out they have 2 demo boards in that size so im gonna buy the newer of the two off them, pretty stoked just wish id handed over the cash straight away!

Since have sold my spitfire, sad to see it go... but i demoed a 5'3 baked potato and that was awesome so il end up getting one of those for small waves...

Wait for that swell to roll in and give the chedda a chance!!!

So i returned the 5'9 Chedda demo to firewire today and it turns out for some reason they have two 5'9 demos so ones been put aside for me to buy at a great price - it was meant to be.

Realistically how much difference am i goign to feel between stock plastic set of futures (v2 thruster set) and a set of flashy fins? Just working on finalising a deal on a chubby chedda but the shop doint want to budge on fins so trying to decide if i want to throw in a bit more moola... im 70kg and will be gettign a 509, open to suggestions as i dont really know what im buying with fins... thanks

Have you tried a chubby chedda? Im demoing one at the moment and i love it but i tihnk i have to try a hellfire before i seal the deal!

Loved it. The surf was a little smaller but still good today 2-3 occasional 4fters nice and clean and got hollow and sucky as the tide dropped off...

The 5'9 chub was nearly as easy to catch waves on as my 5'8 spit... I was really suprised with its ability to catch small waves...

It definitely wasnt as fast in flat sections and fatter waves but plenty fast enough and more importantly when it walled up and got fast/steep it just held so SO much better, felt like it didnt sit as high and could get a rail in way better but then at speed it had plenty of lift and drive...

Also the difference riding FST compared to rapidfire is very palpable, the rapidfire is so rigid and clattery, great when its small but the flex and dampening effect of the FST is awesome in comparison especially in critical drop ins and bottom turns and when theres a little chop to slice thrpough....

I thought maybe with steep drop ins the fairly flat nose rocker would be a bit of a pain... But the genius of this board is in the thin tail with a whippy rocker... Youv got the paddle power and catching ability of a flatter board which you can get your weight forward in flat sections and outrunning the foamball then when you need it you shift the weight back and theres all the rocker you need! Lovely for drivey bottom turns and getting lift for floaters!!! What a great shape!!!

Got a sick barrel and it wedged up and closed out on me but i didnt care i was just frothin so hard... pretty sure im gonna buy one but i still kinda want to try out a 5'8 hellfire...

Looked at one in a shop and it has a fair bit more double concave and nose rocker but a flatter tail....

Anyone got anymore input comparing hellfire and chubby chedda?

Cheers

Got a demo 5'9 til the weekend, im frothin. Working from home for the week and the surf has been and is gonna be pumping!

The dimensions do just look so nice and it feels SO light but less rigid than my rapidfire spitfire.

yeh cc looks like such a good shape and i actually like that it only has the 3 fin boxes! im pretty much set on the 509 CC... i hope its everythign i want and more!!! let me know how you go on yours hope its a rippa

cheers phil! why the CC over the other two? looks like it has a bit less nose rocker and a bit more tail rocker to me... at the moment my only board is a 508 spitfire which is great but gets sketchy when it gets big/hollow/sucky... i think 509 CC is gonna be the go... then i suppose eventually il get a true step up and replace the spitfire and have a sweet 3 board quiver for all occasions!

or hellrazor?!?! or hellfire?!

cant really help with your comparison but i picked up a CC in the shop and the same thing happened to me, such a nice shape and foam distribution! what do you weigh? im 70, 72 max and tihnking 5'9....

Sweet, thats more what im going for... im pretty sure its the right choice. Am i about on the money with a 5'9? absolute max im 72kgs but usually around 70... thanks

So many sick boards out there! Liked the look of loads in the rack but CC really especially attracted me... So what are the differences with the SS?

Wheres the love from everyone else? Re assure me! Drop some knowledge!

Also one shop had a few sub scorchers they said they could do a good price on... Any experiences with this board? Looked a bit flatter and maybe less what i was looking for but a nice shape for sure...

Awesome info again guys, i was thinking i would go the hellfire first and get a BP once iv sold the spitfire which goes pretty good as a groveller since its like 30L or something!

Thanks for the reply matt,

Im from the uk originally, norfolk so not the best surf in the world haha! The gold coast is quite something in comparison but its just a LITTLE more crowded............

I think i would go 501 and 508 hellfire for sure from what everyone has said. I thought about the hellrazor too but a lot of people seem to think that altho its more hybridy and chunkier the hellfire actually copes better under pressure... i dunno people just seem to froth about this board and i suppose in the long run id get something to top off the upper end but these 2 will be a wicked foundation for a 3 board quiver!

Now just gotta justify the spend (more to my gf than myself haha)

cheers

Just wateched the video that thing goes pretty good! Anyone know migsys dimensions?

Thanks guys, really appreciate the feedback!

Just about everyone is suggesting go 508 on the hellfire which the more i think about it seems the right choice. Really useful to here your similar story and surfing the beachies (broadbeach is my closest) when they get sucky is classic territory where i start tihnking about changing up from the 508 spitfire.

just about everyone seems to froth over their hellfires! i suppose for now i could keep the 508 spit for grovelling and get a hellfire then get a BP or SP a little later altho it might be nice for the winter...

i suppose i really ought to board test some different sizes and models out of currumbin! my concern is under shooting on volume but i think thats the thing really the 508 spit feels corky and i would want the BP for grovelling and the hellfire for punchier stuff so at the right volume they should be great for their range and probably overlap eachother a little...

now im starting to question mainy sweet or baked potato and to go slightly more volume for uber grovelling or less for perfomance....

Thanks for your thoughts boys, i was starting to think that 501 and 508 would be the way to go with these two boards, im still open to other suggestions but thought these two models would be the best for me from what iv read... I suppose my 508 spitfire feels a bit corky often so thats a clear sign really but i dont wanna undershoot on volume either!

Matt id love to hear how you compare the SP and BP.

Hey bro! Thanks for the advice! I actually found a 5'8 pretty cheap in perfect condition 2nd hand so got it, the waves are super small at the moment on the gold coast so i figured it would make a good high performance grovellor... it does feel like its got a bit of volume to it but im sure il stil be able to duck dive it etc and bully it about in turns... my general thinking was i will be able to sell it on for basically the same price so might hit up a hellfire soon... gonna test drive some boards out of firewire currumbin soon! especially when the surf picks up which it should soon, and if i really love the spit i might just downsize on that or il go for something like 5'8 hellfire..... il let you know how it goes!!!

ok that worked but it keeps denying my posts! i picked up a 5'8 spitfire second hand really good condition got it set up 4 fins and stoked to go try it! tiny waves at the moment on the gold cast and i figure itl make a great perfomance groveller that i can easily sell on and go for something else! probably demo some stuff down at firewire in currumbin as currumbin alley is pretty much my favourite local spot! thanks for the help!

cant seem to post...

just realised you already answered the question i asked and finally i have found someone same weight as me to reassure me of the right size to go for! thanks

nice vid :) looks like a sweet little spot! what height/weight are you im in the market for a hellfire and at 70kg and 5'7" was thinking the 5'8 was about the right size for me too....