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Thanks for all the help Slowman! You've been a great help! I'm keen to try a 5 fin setup like you do so will look into what quad set would be best for me. Maybe just a set of performance core sf4's might be the go.
I have been thinking about the R2's. Wondering whether they are a bit big for my weight though (76kgs). I'm guessing that will just give me more hold and a less loose feeling. Maybe that's not such a bad thing while I'm finding my feet on a new board.
YellowSurfBus started a topic If you could own only 2 sets of fins to be used with a Spitfire and Hellfire...in Spitfire
If you could own only 2 sets of fins to be used with a Spitfire and Hellfire.........what would they be?
I've got a 6'0" Spitfire and will soon be purchasing a 6'2" Hellfire and want to buy 2 sets of decent fins. Currently riding the Spitfire with the plastic SF-4's that came with it.
I weigh 76kg's and will be out in anything from knee high to double overhead.
I'm thinking a quad set for when its smaller, Rusty R2's? And then a thruster for when it gets bigger. Should I go for a large thruster set for when it's big or would mediums be fine?
Thanks man! I think I will head back to the shop and see if they can do a deal on a set of fins. How do you find the 5 fin setup when it gets a bit bigger/steeper? Although I guess you would ride your Hellfire or Jackknife in these conditions? I think I had more success in the second session as the faces were a couple of foot smaller. Maybe a thruster set would have been better in overhead conditions?
Do you think the Rusty setup would work for me at my weight? Would you recommend a thruster set when things get bigger? After christmas I'm going to get a Hellfire but at the moment the Spit is a one board quiver for me.
I picked up a 6'0" Spitfire on friday. I'm 24, 76kg and a low intermediate surfer like yourself, been surfing about 3 years but can get to the beach quite often. I used to surf a 6'8" 7S superfish (43L). I've taken the spitfire out twice so far and it's plenty of volume for me as far as float go's, could have gone with the 5'10". It's definitely harder getting into waves but I'm very unfit at the moment so that is not helping at all. It's going to take a bit of getting used to riding a short board but don't think it's going to be that bad and can see myself wishing I went for the 5'10" in a few months. I also bought this board for a surf trip after christmas with Morocco being the first stop, going to get a 6'2" Hellfire though for the better days. The 6'0" will be enough float for you and if you have a good level of fitness it shouldn't be too much trouble getting into waves, especially after a month or 2 of riding the board.
I picked up my new board yesterday :) Went for a 6'0" Spitfire in the end as I liked the look of the refined tail. Stoked to have a new board! Took it out in overhead clean and semi steep conditions yesterday morning. I did notice a slight difference paddling around on it compared to my 6'8" but the easier duck diving made up for that. Only got a few waves and struggled on those few, It's going to take a while to get the board dialled in and improve my sub par fitness. It's awesome to finally make it to short board territory though! Went out again in the afternoon in shoulder to head high slightly punchier waves and had a little more success. I was always too late dropping in though and couldn't make the sections. I swapped boards with my mate for the last half hour while we were out; he has a 6'2" rusty with 27.7l of volume made for full and mushy waves (I forget the name now). To my surprise I actually got on with this board a little better than the Spit. All I put this down to is my technique fit the rusty better than the spit so need to work out what I was doing wrong. I think I need to find the sweet spot for paddling the board then everything will start getting easier.
Has anyone got any tips on how the Spit likes to be ridden? Also maybe some FCS fin options as my mate commented on how he liked the looseness but seemed to lack drive and slowed quite easily. I was using the SF4's that came with the board.
Awesome, thanks Slowman!
I'm pretty set on a 6'2" HF. I'll be thankful of the slight extra volume on the bigger days even though it will be at a slight cost to performance. The HF definitely seems like the board for me over the ALT. I like the versatility of the 5 fin set up and how it should be a slightly easier transition from the Dom.
With the size of the DOM, it will probably come down to which feels better under my arm in the shop as there is so little difference in Volume.
Now the waiting game until payday!!
Double postLast edited by YellowSurfBus; 11-05-2012, 11:01 AM.
Some good thinking points there from both of you. Great comparison Slowman! I've come very close to deciding a few times but there is always some conflicting information that you come across that throws a spanner in the works lol, would be boring it was easy though eh!
Slowman, I'm a bit lighter than you, but A LOT less experienced and I can't help thinking that my weight doesn't go far enough to even that up, and I should be looking at bigger boards? Really worried about being under foamed and not getting on with the boards. What are your thoughts on this?
Sounds like a pretty sweet combo! I've not got the balls for anything too massive so those 2 boards should cover me for everything.
What sort of wave size/quality do you use each board in?
Sorry to confuse you when I said you own four of the boards I'm interested in, I meant to ask that question to Slowman lol. Thats what happens when I post just after waking up before work I guess lol! Good to hear your views on the Dom and Alt, it seems like a real popular combo!
What would the pro's and con's be of the Alt vs HF?
Just out of interest what height and weight are you as you own 4 boards I've been interested in also in similar sizes?
Awesome, thanks for the replies. I've managed to pursuade myself down from a 604 Dom to a 600 so far, the difference between a 600 and a 510 in volume is very little so maybe I will go for that. I can't help but think it's going to be way too short for me, but what is the point of coming on here and asking for advice if I'm not going to listen :)
Buzzy, what size Dom and Alt do you ride and what are your stats/ability?
YellowSurfBus started a topic Decided on a 600 Dom but going to get 2 boards, thinking either Hellfire or Alt?
Decided on a 600 Dom but going to get 2 boards, thinking either Hellfire or Alt?So originally I was going to get a 600 Spitfire and use that as my all round board but have realised with a year of travelling ahead, 2 boards will be a better option.
I'm 24, 5'11" and 76kg's. I would put myself at a low intermediate level after surfing for about 3 years on and off. The board I'm surfing at the moment is a 608 7S superfish with 43ltrs volume (feels like an absolute boat).
For the next 4 months I'll be surfing UK winter waves so thinking the Dom will be good for most situations. Around March time I'm heading around Europe for 3 months surfing Marocco, Portugal, France, and Spain and then after that will be off to WA for the foreseeable future with a week a month spent in Indo inbetween work shifts. Will be surfing waves from waist high to double overhead on occasion.
So I'm looking for a 2 board quiver that is going to do me well for the next 12-18 months and am torn between a Hellfire or Alternator as the second board. From what I've read, the Hellfire seems like it will be closer in feeling to the Dom than the Alt would, so has me thinking they would be a better pair to have at my low level. But is there 2 much of a crossover between the 2 boards and would an Alt be a better choice for the bigger hollower waves? I'm just worried that there will be too big of a jump between the Dom and the Alt that I will just end up riding the Dom all the time.
What do you guys think is the best option for me, board and size wise? I was thinking 604 Alt or 602 Hellfire?
Ye useless year, bring on more travelling!
Had a bit more success at Porthmeor today on the 600. Got to my feet on a few waves, messed up a few as well though. I'm putting this partly down to lack of fitness (surfed 6 times since April, thought I was fitter than I actually am!) and partly being on a board 8" shorter than I'm used to. With my lack of fitness I was surprised how well the board paddled, really impressed with that.
So I can paddle it and get into waves, but it felt super twitchy when I was up on my feet. Pretty sure I would get used to that fairly quickly with some good waves.
I'm still pretty torn between a 600 and 602 though, and still think that maybe a Dominator would be better for me. Maybe slightly less responsive to make a for a better transition from a big board?
Fingers crossed! It's about time we had a few days of swell and good winds!
That's where I surfed bud. It was bang on high tide when I got in though so not ideal! I've got work all week so only have an hour or so after work until it gets dark.
I took a 6'0" Spitfire for a demo today after work. It was about head high on the sets, pretty lumpy and fat until it jacked up and dumped on the shore. So not ideal conditions to try out a new board. I got into a few waves but messed up the take off every time. First impressions are that the board paddles well and I can get it into waves. In clean conditions I think I would have had a better surf. I'm tempted to say it's a tad too short for me though. I have the board again for tomorrow so will have another crack at it. The surf isn't going to be anything special tomorrow either though. I may try and demo it again at the weekend when it go's offshore.
Thanks for more input guys! I think going to demo a board is the way forward, leaning towards a 6'2" at the moment but after a demo I'll know for sure!
Ah nice one! I'm in Redruth so Hayle isn't a problem at all. Next bit of half decent surf we get I'll pop down there and try out a 5'10" or a 6'. Part of me thinks it will be a little short initially but it will be so much easier to duck dive so that will make up for it until I am used to riding the shorter board. I'm also leaning towards the Spitfire over the Dominator. It will be my all round board except for when its real small then I'll use my 6'8", and it seems like the Spitfires only downfall to the dominator is in small surf.
Wow that's a lot shorter than I was thinking, glad I asked the question! I'm leaning towards either a Spitfire or Dominator because of the fin setup and because I think they will fit my style and ability a bit better. An alternator would suit me after this board or possibly a few months down the line as an additional board I think.
Thanks for the advice.
First Firewire and first shortboard, another size query!Hey all. So currently I'm riding a 6'8" 7S superfish and am looking to downsize. I'm 24, 5'11", 76kg and reasonably fit. I have been surfing for about 3 years now on and off and I would say I'm at an early intermediate level. Never any problems catching waves on what I'm riding now, and once I'm up I carve up and down the face no problem. No snappy top turns or big cut backs yet so think early intermediate is about right?
I surf anything from knee high to head and a half. Head high is about my comfortable limit but like pushing myself out in the slightly bigger stuff. The new board will be for a bit of surfing in Cornwall for the rest of this year and then for next year when I'll be travelling around France, Spain, Portugal and Morocco for a few months followed by another Bali trip then some time in WA.
I like the looks of the Dominator and was originally thinking about a 6'4" but a friend of mine reckons I could go a bit shorter so looking for a few more opinions? I also came across some people recommending the Spitfire over the Dominator. Is this another possibility for me?