Think the same as 5.11 would be closer to my height but had the same dilemma with thickness 18.75 and 2/38 is less than 28.5 litres in CBD if i remember right and 18.75 - 2 7/16 i dont know if rails thin out enough..

Hi sarge you think VG 5.6 can replace 5.11 CC in your quiver especially at the low end more weak waves?
Thanks.

Great news...prjwebb

Core and other guys are expert with future mine is fcs.
cheers..

Nice........waiting review when you try any of those babies.......

fcs or future?

I use my 6 MB for a year now and also try my mate 6.2 alternator.Altenator is more alround forgiving board paddle and catch waves easier.MB is more HPSB love the pocket of the wave turn more vertical in my opinion needs steeper faces and a better surfer who must push harder paddling reasonable ok.If all of these come together MB can blow your mind for sure...

I don't think it feels a bit silly to buy a new board for 1" less length and .25" width and .7" thickness,thats why i think new models came out this way.Don't forget you have to spent a lot of money for a board and more options you have the better it is to choose the right size for you.....Older models have big differences between 2 sizes.

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Nice job......

Yes original controller from futures fins are much much better than indo copies and perform a lot better in my opinion....cheers...

Agree 100% wrong decision{first time on this spot} my 6 MB would be a better option....

No the wave hit and destroy the board and I injured my shoulder when i try to escape ....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ibnu5inf8q1x3m/SANY0023.MP4

My 5.8 PN destroyed{bad luck} try to save money now to buy a new one probably 5.6. I didn't have problem with 5.8 till head high and reasonable wave power but i like to add more performance and go for 5.6 but not sure yet so many magic boards to choose...

Graphic view is almost the same but tech view is different especially tail and volume.I try both boards and PN is bigger than SPIT AND can grovell better in the conditions you describe above.I am the same weight and had the same dilemma with you 5.6 or 5.8? Maybe BP 5.3 as prjwebb said is right but i recognise PN had the benefits of potato family with SP performance added a magic small wave board.Good luck..

Agree 100%..SF4 is also a good option.

I have 5.6 RF sweet and a friend of mine 5.6 FST. Try both a lot and found RF much better performance- speed get up and go-more responsive and better performance in small waves. Just different boards for me but this is my personal opinion....

I want to hear more for you iggy paddle power -catch ability- wave range- compare with your other boards etc.....
Thanks.

Hi i use my PN 5.8 as a quad only with SF4 and K2.1 which i found more loose but lack drive {maybe 10 kgs over you is the reason}.I try also SF4 front with K2.1 rear and really like that combo.AM2 have more sweep and really like them in more taditional style shortboards and more upright fins for my hybrids boards.

Cheers..

Hi LensSW i have MB 6.0 at 80+ kgs.A true HPSBwith more volume and less length but you must push hard {look Michel power surfing} to make it work properly so 5.10 thin {or 6.0 thin}could be enough at 70 kgs.

Never try BP but i love my SP. You must paddle harder than a mini malibu {probably shorter length is responsible} but is a revolution in small waves with so much fun speed and manuebrabilite.Probably you need few more litres to grovell so 5.3 at 32.5 litres would be fine..

Good luck.

Hi LensSW i have MB 6.0 at 80+ kgs.A true HPSBwith more volume and less length but you must push hard {look Michel power surfing} to make it work properly so 5.10 thin {or 6.0 thin}could be enough at 70 kgs.

Never try BP but i love my SP. You must paddle harder than a mini malibu {probably shorter length is responsible} but is a revolution in small waves with so much fun speed and manuebrabilite.Probably you need few more litres to grovell so 5.3 at 32.5 litres would be fine..

Good luck.

Compare two boards is on again and all the new models added.Thanks guys from FW very useful tool............

Agree with prjwebb and fw fan too much overlap but you have so many options to consider........from the FW fleet......

It would be very interesting report from iggy....Fingers crossed..

Nice review Fazza waiting more.What's your opinion UniBrow or CC to cover mid wave range between my potato and MB?(Want the most versatile option as it would be my every day board).
Thanks.

1 in. increments would help a lot agree 100%.I like also to see HR to the CBD.

Thanks Fazza waiting for you review against CC...

I try the knubster on my PN 5,8.When waves are fat and slow with no power don't like it feel some drag and lose speed.If wave is steeper with power it feels totaly different you can do a full speed bottom turn with more control and hold go more vertical to the lip think like you have a thruster more performance board....

Cheers..

Hi prjwebb SR is the Sub scorcher?

The Firewire Unibrow. Deisigner Dan Mann explains, "The Unibrow has its roots in a shape I've been riding as my regular shortboard, blended with all that I've gleened from designing and using the Dominator, Sweet Potato and Potato-Nator. Different from a regular shortboard with a compressed outline curve without sacrificing the width needed to maintain and maximise paddling and planing speed. My goal was to design a proper high-performance shortboard that didn't feel too chunky when the surf was good and you don't really need a 'groveler'. The rail profile is dropped and very sensitive, especially through the tail. The hull has an aggressive single concave that begins at the nose and runs through the deep spot in front of the fins and divides into a subtle double concave that directs the water flow to the inside of the front fins".

Dan make it again......
http://www.secretspot.co.uk/surfboar...ire-20339.aspx

http://www.boardshop.co.uk/firewire-...!/fub-510r-03/

Try on PN 5.8 K2.1 front with SF4 rear and really like it more get up and go speed loose enough nice hold and release on the top.Waves that day had enough power must try again in more weak soft conditions to say more..

Hi meek can you tell us differences against futura?Cover the same wave range and how is paddling grovelling etc...???

Nice.......................

Agree with prjwebb PN is more user friendly board than potatos because i think you have more length and less width at the same litres.Potatos needs some time to get used properly.You cant go wrong with any of these 3 boards for small waves . The choise is yours.....

I think tail kick is too much but the MB or Taj evenly distributed rocker must be more.You can see that also against JK just check Fazza photos.
http://www.firewiresurfboards.com/f/...ns-(LSD)/page2

BP 5.7 i think is the right choise because 6.0 spit and 5.10 pn overlap a lot. Also SP 5.8 is a super fun board for 1-3ft super weak closing out mushy beach break and 195 lbs rider and with SP 6.0 you cover all small to medium waves .Good luck.

Go on core go on.....................

Welcome surferzach fcs or future is your board?

Hi Sarge future or fcs is your board?
Mine is fcs and still looking for a alround set with drive and release never look of Kinetic Racing Parko Carbo-Tune fins JP-5. Lot of guys said that board needs bigger fins or fins with larger base to accelerate but afraid this could make board too stiff.

Vanguard is on HPSB category where MB cover me(maybe different feeling between them).MD is an option and JK and CC......etc....firewire dilemmas .

Lucky man............... we want some photos......really jealous....

Thanks iggy.
My SP 5.6 sold because was big and now i am with PN 5.8 and MB 6.0 search for something between to replace my trusty futura.Try 5.10 Spit but was too big and i think overlap alot with PN.

Well done iggy i have 5.8 PN really nice board. Do you think is too much overlap with Spitfire 5.8?
What size of Vanguard did you order?

Futura...........all time classic!!!!!

I had a DM 6.2 and 6.0 and agree with iggy 6.0 is a safe bet but 5.10 is only 1.3 litres less same thickness and very similar width.I think you could go easy with 5.10.
Good luck....

Agree in many boards volume difference is over 10% between 2 sizes and it is difficult to choose the right one.

Agree in many boards volume difference is over 10% between 2 sizes and it is difficult to choose the right one.

Thanks Fazza photos help a lot.My trusty favourite old futura is dead after 5 yrs so i must replace it. Chubby Chedda and JK must be good options for daily driver in 2-6ft surf to cover me between PN 5.8 and MB 6.0(thick).Wait for you review....

Hi Fazza nice board. Can you tell us width thickness and volume of your 5.11 LSD and how it look under your arm compare with 6.0 JK.
Thanks .

i am jealous

I am 177lbs and ride 5.8 because i have a SP to cover low end. If paddle power is very important and you like a little more volume go 6.0 but also 5.10 is an option.How many litres are the boards you ride?

I try to do the same. I have a SP 5.6(which is big for me) and take a PN 5.8 to replace her BUT at slow fat weak windswell 1- 2 feet SP is unbeatable.......maybe BP is a better option...to cover low end range with more performance..

Michel is on SF with a 9.67!!! score wave 2 min before the end of the heat...
http://www.oneill.com/cwc/?page_id=2080

Very nice..............................

Chris i think Potatonator is also a good option paddle and ride excellent.
Cheers...

Never try a Sub but I have MB 6.0(thick).MB is a hpsb and is better in good shape waves with enough power to go on...if you need a board for windy, fatter waves try an other option good luck..

Yes Chris mine is with fcs but there are some more in uk.....
http://www.secretspot.co.uk/surfboar...916-19441.aspx

Thanks for everyone's input.Maybe more tip area as core said is the key..also i have k2.1 and i can find a set k3 for a friend to try. Forecast look very good..............

RF i think have quicker responsive which i like alot but FST is stronger.The choise is up to you. Both techs are brilliant....

No one to give an advise for 6 MB thick with fcs fin box? come on guys!

I ride a PN 5.8 and picks up waves very early but i never test a BP.1-2 crumbly waves BP probably is the winner but i think a advanced surfer with average fitness can make PN fly on the lower end of range...

Agree with iggy i am 177lbs and ride a 5.6 go 5.4 max. I think it will not catch waves so easy and early as a longoboard but if get up and go you cane take so much SPEED even at 2 feet wind chop.........

I have a futura 6.0 and use AM 2( PC orange)fcs that i like a lot overall i try also k2.1 which too loose and less drivey but also ok but the AM2 are my favourite .

Hello firewire crew after an el fuego 5.11 sweet potato 5.6 dominator 6 and my trusty futura 6 choose MB 6thick as my shortboard.I try the board not in ideal waves with pc5 fcs fins paddle and catch waves very well as i am 175- 180 lbs.The board bite so good on the wave and when you push turns on a dime but on the second session with bigger and more powerful waves slide out a lot and cant push to make a proper turn.

Thinking to try bigger fins and i am between G AM(large AM FCS) and H3 nexus (large)
Any help please? Thank you and sorry for my english.....