Poll - What Board do you want to see in the CDB?

[FW - Fan]

i reckon you could almost drop the CBD and just offer 1 inch increments in the top selling models....Further....with a bit of sales history recorded you could tailor production so that runs of the most popular sizes in 1 inch increments are routinely produced with periodic production of the less popular sizes for stock and orders...seems to me to make more sense given the relatively limited options when resizing a stock board. I am just not convinced that a quarter or half an inch here or there makes THAT much difference....

[prjwebb]

Dunno, my CBD Taj is a world away from my old stock 602.

[FW - Fan]

Dunno, my CBD Taj is a world away from my old stock 602.

what changes did you make??

[prjwebb]

Dropped 2" length, added 3/8" width to the wide point, maxed the nose width and widened the tail to 14"3/4 while keeping the volume the same as the original 6'2".
It changed a super sensitive, perfect wave board to a more forgiving, modern template that works in a much broader range of conditions for me.

[stylar]

Agree with the 1" increments, i miss out on a lot of boards too. I just don't want to see Firewire turn into another Apple, by innovating and then stagnating with controlled options being available.
I've pondered how many more boards i would have, if the right sizes were availble. I've even contemplated turning back to the the PU darkside!!! I know i feel so ashamed, please forgive me!!!!

Based on my magic volume of end of 29 to 30 litres. these are the boards available to me

6'5 Artillery 30.2
6'4 Flexfire 30.6
6'3 hellrazor 30.9
6'3 F1 29.7
6'0 MB 29.9
6'2 MB 29.8
6'0 Mini Driver 30.5
6'0 Stealth 30.5
5.10 Unibrow 30.2
5'11 Chubby Chedda 30.9

10 out 19 performance boards. Seems like a lot at first but since owning the hellrazor in 6'3 @ 30.9, an older refined 6'4 Taj @ 29.9 & a 6'3 F1 @ 29.7.
I'm finding the razor a bit of hit and miss with the volume at 30.9, i can notice it and find the board hard to dominate at times compared to the Taj and F1.
So I've learned that a board with a longer rail line has to have a max volume of 30 or I'll notice it.
Where as my 6'0 stealth at 30.5 has become my daily driver, because i can dominate the extra volume to the shorter rail line.

Going with the trend of boards being shorter and wider for overall performance in a range of waves
the options to me become smaller.

6'0 MB 29.9
6'0 Mini Driver 30.5
6'0 Stealth 30.5
5.10 Unibrow 30.2
5'11 Chubby Chedda 30.9

So out of the the Firewire brand range I only now have 2 boards available to me, due to the lack of 1" increments, in the range.
the 6'0 MB would be perfect, but seeing as it's only offered in futures, and me with a stack of FCS is another entirely different argument!!!!
I now looking for board with a bit more standard hp to compliment my stealth. I'm still not sure if the Mini, Unibrow or Chubby are too similar.
I am leaning towards the 5'11 CC, but still unsure?

[FW - Fan]

Agree with the 1" increments, i miss out on a lot of boards too. I just don't want to see Firewire turn into another Apple, by innovating and then stagnating with controlled options being available.
I've pondered how many more boards i would have, if the right sizes were availble. I've even contemplated turning back to the the PU darkside!!! I know i feel so ashamed, please forgive me!!!!

Based on my magic volume of end of 29 to 30 litres. these are the boards available to me

6'5 Artillery 30.2
6'4 Flexfire 30.6
6'3 hellrazor 30.9
6'3 F1 29.7
6'0 MB 29.9
6'2 MB 29.8
6'0 Mini Driver 30.5
6'0 Stealth 30.5
5.10 Unibrow 30.2
5'11 Chubby Chedda 30.9

10 out 19 performance boards. Seems like a lot at first but since owning the hellrazor in 6'3 @ 30.9, an older refined 6'4 Taj @ 29.9 & a 6'3 F1 @ 29.7.
I'm finding the razor a bit of hit and miss with the volume at 30.9, i can notice it and find the board hard to dominate at times compared to the Taj and F1.
So I've learned that a board with a longer rail line has to have a max volume of 30 or I'll notice it.
Where as my 6'0 stealth at 30.5 has become my daily driver, because i can dominate the extra volume to the shorter rail line.

Going with the trend of boards being shorter and wider for overall performance in a range of waves
the options to me become smaller.

6'0 MB 29.9
6'0 Mini Driver 30.5
6'0 Stealth 30.5
5.10 Unibrow 30.2
5'11 Chubby Chedda 30.9

So out of the the Firewire brand range I only now have 2 boards available to me, due to the lack of 1" increments, in the range.
the 6'0 MB would be perfect, but seeing as it's only offered in futures, and me with a stack of FCS is another entirely different argument!!!!
I now looking for board with a bit more standard hp to compliment my stealth. I'm still not sure if the Mini, Unibrow or Chubby are too similar.
I am leaning towards the 5'11 CC, but still unsure?

Just my opinion but I would never get that hung up on volume...there is just so much more to consider. Yes its important and yes for a standard HPSB or Performance Hybrid you can have an ideal volume but there is other issues such as rocker, width and rail profile that are just as important.

[stylar]

Just my opinion but I would never get that hung up on volume...there is just so much more to consider. Yes its important and yes for a standard HPSB or Performance Hybrid you can have an ideal volume but there is other issues such as rocker, width and rail profile that are just as important.

I completely agree with you fw-fan. But that 29-30 volume range is based off boards i've ridden and how they performed.
If I was too hung up on volume, the volume calc(which i know is just a guide) for 90kg @35yrs in advance level is min 31 max 34. Boards in that range (for me) would seriously impact performance.

As well as rocker, width and rail profile, there is also the factor of how the volume is distributed throughout the board.
With my 6'3 razor for instance there is a bit more foam in the tail area than there is my stealth, which why i have to push the tail just that bit harder to bury the rail.
Unfortunately i couldnt test the 6'1 razor, and looks like its one of boards like the Bourez that has a lot of volume distribution, that will allow you to ride it under volume if your ability allows.
I know "Core" with his MB went form thick 6'2 to thin 6'2, and thinks the 6'0 thick which is the same volume as the thin 6'2 would perform better with the shorter rail line.

I have no regrets with my 6'3 razor, if anything the razor and stealth have taught me a lot about what i want out of a board. i just use it for the bigger solid days.
Again in a perfect world, if the hellrazor came in 6'2 may have been just right, or if added to the CBD, i would have gone a 6'0 or 6'1 with wider nose & slightly bumped up volume.

[core personal training]

ive just lost weight and need to change off the thin MB 602.. 84kg in boardies and i cant bite the rail on steep takeoffs..also not as reactive now..even with the help of more flexy (ea blakstix) fins.. (maybe in winter wetty it'll go again)... similar volume in HF is still knifey and whippet like... same volume in a proV-1 will get me back on a twitchier board... so def use vol as a start point only...the thing with volume is knowing how much of it is going to need pushing into the water... ie.. thin rails, short rail line and/or more outline curve and/or rocker can mean less board in water regardless of overall volume...also curves help initiate turns and getting the foam in...

so proV-1, replace my old perfect flexy, or forget normal surfing and go a vanguard..???

[suberimakuri]

Is it just me or are all pdf's coming out with no details now? Tried adjusting a Bourez and a Flexfire?

[Chris]

Hey Suberimakuri, i think you might be opening the PDF with the wrong app. Make sure you are using the latest Adobe reader and are actually viewing it in that program. I bet that solves it...