Where"s the Hellfire fall Buzzy, what would say is the max wave height and how does it handle hollow waves?
Where"s the Hellfire fall Buzzy, what would say is the max wave height and how does it handle hollow waves?
92kg 183cm. 6.0 FST Potatonator, 5'7" RF Baked Potato
That sounds like a good summary Buzzy. The only thing that I would add is that when I looked at the Unibrow up close and personal, it does not resemble a Dominator, except for the round tail. The wide point is significantly below center of the board and the double concave is extreme. I don't think that it would feel familiar under foot after surfing the Dominator. It's basically a Hellfire with a round tail.
5'11, 175lbs
- 5'6 Dominator FST (for 2-3ft surf)
- 5'10 Mini Driver Hydroflex (for 3-6ft surf)
- 5'10 Takayama Scorpion (for heavy crowds)
I'm not sure. It looks like it would work as a tiny step up from a Spit and as a great grovel board for a good surfer. I've heard Chris saying though that for some people it works great in 2x overhead, better for some in those conditions than a Hellrazor, while others relate it is very skatey. For me it's just a board that doesn't speak to me. I'd be looking at a Unibrow over a Hellfire.
47yoa, 177cm, 90kg, Intermediate+
Dom 6'4" with K3 fins
Unibrow 6'4" with KR JP5 fins
Quadrafive 6'6" with KR JP5 Carbon Tune
I've got to disagree about it not being a good paddler. Considering it's a lower volume and shorter length board I think it paddles better than would be expected. It's never going to paddle like a dominator which would have about 6 or 7 litres more volume in a similar length.
I just wish it had a little more tail rocker...
6'0" - 77kg - 170lbs
502R FPT - DL front DS rears
506D RVG - Soar Powerbase DL
600Q FTJ/CBD - Soar Powerbase DL
604R FFE - Soar Powerbase DL
Yeah I'm just summarising my perceptions of feedback. I have no personal experience. I'm trying to pick between the two as a "next step up" from the Dom with me really looking for the board to cut in at around chest high and cut out at 1.5x overhead. It sounds like either would work with the Unibrow better in below head high and the Mini Driver better above head high. I personally really need to hear more on the Unibrow though.
Personally I find the MD picks up where the potato ends pretty well for me. Unless the waves are gutless it works in anything chest high and up. It's very reliable and holds in well when the waves are solid, fast and steep too.
I personally would prefer more rocker, especially in the tail, for laying into turns on a vertical face. It feels a little stiff to me. I think I might go back to surfing it as a quad actually.
No experience with the Unibrow here either but it's one of the few models that I haven't wanted to run out and buy based on pics and descriptions. I'm pretty sure it won't work that well for me based on the boards I like.
The Jacknife is starting to catch my attention though...
ridden at the right volume..(lowish/shortish).. the HF has few limits...it rides as a full hi-perf, not like a hybrid..(again, if not ridden too big)... i rode the 510 EVERY day for 12 months at 90+kgs in 1 foot up to scary slabs..(ok the slabs were pushing it but it still rode them with as much attack as a knifey performance board..)..
i hate barrels as i dont want my dodgy back compressed (just ask Goanna or Megsy about my lobster dive bail outs..!!)..and cant twist around safely when bent over so cant drive through anything smaller than standup tubes, but have had a memorable tuck in session on a local bare rock barrel(for boogies most of the time).. HF air drops down, bites its rail off the bottom and drives up into them, then hold speed in there with little input from me...relaxing barrel surfing...and being shorter it fit in easily..
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SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb
and countless others (mostly nev's)
youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
Thanks Core that's what I wanted to hear
92kg 183cm. 6.0 FST Potatonator, 5'7" RF Baked Potato
I've ridden 2 x overhead on the HF a couple of times and so long as it isn't lumpy it doesn't get skatey on me...maybe if I had a 6'0 it wouldn't be so much of a problem.
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Moving forward or just spinning faster?
5'8 RF Vanguard 32.2L FCS H3 quad
6'0 FST Dominator 34.8L FCS PC SF4 quad + stabiliser
6'0 FST Spitfire 34.9L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser
6'2 FST Jacknife 33.3L FCS PC quad front/rear TC Redlines/TC Aqualines
6'2 FST Hellfire 33.7L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser (x 2, yes 1 here, 1 there!)
6'4 FST Alternator 34.?L FCS PG7
6'7 FST Hellrazor 36.5L FCS R2 thruster
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yep slow, less is more... :) and futures SA3's in it..
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IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED,
IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED,
IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT,
IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE,
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SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb
and countless others (mostly nev's)
youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant