alohaz!
Does anyone have a 5'8" Hellfire and can provide comparison to the Vanguard (either 5'4" or 5'6") as far as paddling out, duck diving, and catching waves? I only surf maybe 1-2 times a month so i really struggle on my 5'2" Dominator. My 5'8" Hellfire is a bit easier.
Mahaloz, looking at the Vanguard for my next board...
5'5" - 165.1 cm, 150 pounds - 68 kg (trying to get to about 140 pounds)
5'2" Dominator
5'8" Hellfire
Thinking about the Vanguard....
I cant say comparison wise, but its an easy board to move in all 3 aspects.
41 yrs, 6', 185 lbs
5'7 BP, 5'10 VG, 6'6 SF, 6'6 Q5, 6'10 ADD, and plenty of others
I may not win American Idol w my singing, but when I yell "HO!!!", its all baritone.
i'll have the 506 to compare anytime now... i ride the 510 hf but know the 508 too...
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SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb
and countless others (mostly nev's)
youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
@core, i'd really like to hear how the 5'6 works for u. i like the 5'10, but know i cud go smaller if i only use it at 3'-4'.
41 yrs, 6', 185 lbs
5'7 BP, 5'10 VG, 6'6 SF, 6'6 Q5, 6'10 ADD, and plenty of others
I may not win American Idol w my singing, but when I yell "HO!!!", its all baritone.
Yeah definitely let us know how your 5'6" goes, i love surfing my 5'2" dominator but use up a lot of energy just paddling out and catching waves. On a decent size wave the board is awesome (with Controller fins).
mahaloz!
5'5" - 165.1 cm, 150 pounds - 68 kg (trying to get to about 140 pounds)
5'2" Dominator
5'8" Hellfire
Thinking about the Vanguard....
will do guys...wont be long....
come on Raz, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD... ETC... ha ha...
INSTAGRAM .... corepersonaltraining
6ft..90ish kg..35+ years surfing
WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD,*WHERE'S MY VANGUARD.... ETC
IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED,
IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED,
IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT,
IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE,
IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE
SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb
and countless others (mostly nev's)
youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
Not a Hellfire, but the 5'8 Spitfire paddles much quicker than the 5'6" Vanguard. The Vanguard felt like a slow paddler to me despite having more volume than most of my other boards. Maybe just down to the mixed up rippy conditions I tried it in?
It also had a lot more resistance when duck diving due to the wide nose shape, but certainly wasn't a hard board to duck dive. I felt like I was getting hung up on the top of waves until they actually got steep. It could be just because the waves were 8 second period wind swell, mixed up and weak or it could be due to the board being on top of the water and not down in the waves energy because of the higher than normal volume.
Hopefully I'll get to surf it in decent waves at the end of this week and feel out how it actually rides and then decide whether I want to downsize to the 5'4 or if I'm happy with how the 5'6 goes. I reckon the thickness distribution in the foil and rails is similar to a Hellfire or the same thickness though.
6'0" - 77kg - 170lbs
502R FPT - DL front DS rears
506D RVG - Soar Powerbase DL
600Q FTJ/CBD - Soar Powerbase DL
604R FFE - Soar Powerbase DL
yeah prj get it in more decent conditions.... I personally feel it paddles well for a HP board, when say compared to a Michel or Alternator or something. I have ridden it in decent shortboarding conditions and find it gets in with little effort. I do agree, however, when it goes mushy, small, and soft its a tough one. My first session on it was in bad waves and I didn't like it. Its a great groveler, but the waves, in my opinion, have to be a bit cleaner/punchier...
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6'0 - 175lbs - 29yrs - SoCal -
503 TG Baked Potato - 506 RF Potatonator - 506 WRF Vanguard - 510 FST Unibrow - 600 FST Michel Bourez - 600 FST Alternator - 602 FST Alternator Round - 603 FST Artillery
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Got it in better conditions today. Took the Potato in on some waist + fun runners and after a couple of hours a little pulse starting coming through about shoulder high, sheet glass and hollow off the take off. The spud was still going well but figured I'd kick myself if I didn't try the VG.
Did the run around to the car park and switched boards, a bit of a trek.
By now I was pretty tired and the low tide meant a lot of closeouts, but the VG got into waves nicely. Felt a bit twitchy after being on the Potato. Anyway didn't really get a good one on it. One late, through the lip reo on a closeout but no opportunity for an open face turn which is what I really wanted to feel it out with.
Found myself catching rail on bottom turns a bit though. Obviously going to take some adjustment. I hope I'm not too front footed for it.
By the time I started feeling it out the pulse had died off again and I was freezing having been in at least 3 hours.
Until next time!
I take vg 5,8 like a every day board,hope to not get wrong instead of a unibrow.i use the potato just for knee hi.and fw 6,2steatlh quad for overhead.the vg should cover those playful waves between one and the other.testing my vg on the weekend.
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