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  1. 01-20-2012, 12:23 PM #1
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    What to buy, Bourez or Hell Razor??

    So today I sold my Hellfire 5'8, I bought the board in april of last year and put that thing through its paces, loved the board alot and it was hard to part with it. I bought a 5'6 Spitfire in October and after having bought that I realized that although the two boards do have different ideal conditions they do overlap a lot. I feel like the Spit covers the lower and middle range of the Hellfire and than when it is big sometimes i feel like the Hellfire is not enough. So I Have my spitifre, I can use my brothers Sweet Potato when it gets realllly small, Now I need something to use when the Surf gets about overhead and a half and the spitfire starts to slide out. None of the older HP models really catch my attention so Im stuck on either the Hell Razor or the MB what I want to know mainly is how much like the Hellfire does the Hellrazor surf? I want a board that can hold its own when its barreling really hard and something with a little more rail line. If I got a Hell Razor im looking at the 5'11 or a 5'10 MB.
    Would like to know if anyone has ridden these, maybe chris or someone, and can chime in and give me a bit of a review on them and how they surf.
    I want something to cover me from head high, upside down barrels, to double overhead point break. Im a bit keener on the Hellrazor than the MB mainly because of how thick the MB is. The 5'10 x 2 7/16 is a bit thick by my standards so I was wondering how much the tail and nose thin out.
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  2. 01-20-2012, 12:32 PM #2
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    There's thinner MBs now too. I think there's a 510 at 2.31" thick but it might be a little too low volume. There's a 6'0" 18.75" 2.38" too which is 27.8l or something. That one sounds sick to me.
    From what I've heard then HR is more refined and much closer to a shortboard than the HF.
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  3. 01-20-2012, 01:38 PM #3
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    Chito, after reading your old reviews on the Hellfire I didn't think you would ever sell that board. I thought when you had ridden it enough you would of had it "stuffed" and put up on the mantlepiece so you could look at it and remember all the good waves you caught on it. :)
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  4. 01-29-2012, 09:57 AM #4
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    Yea Danga it was really hard to sell the board but after coming to the realization that My spitfire was starting to replace my HF for waist to overhead + surf I figured that It was time to make a change.
    I have got my mind set on a 5'11 Hell Razor, After seeing what felipe toledo did on his HR at D bah in poor conditions sets my concerns aside as to wether or not the board would be good for powerful blown out bad waves. The beach break I surf in front of my house is really dredgy at low tide and I want a board that apart from surfing good when the waves are epic will also handle really steep, doubling up, onshore sand suckers at low tide when its blown out. I felt at times that the 5'8 Hellfire was lacking a bit of rail line and bite when the waves got really steep and powerful or big, although for its size it did handle big waves with excellent grace, however, I feel that the rail line of a 5'11 that is thinner will handle the conditions a bit better.
    6'2 - 165 pounds -19 yrs old.

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  5. 01-31-2012, 08:35 PM #5
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    A little video with the Hellrazor:
    http://vimeo.com/35967242
    165cms 89Kgs dry...working on that at the moment...but not working!!! :)
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  6. 02-01-2012, 03:47 PM #6
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    yeah a little FYI the Hellrazor was developed for Taj and elite surfers by Nev and though Taj ultimately chose to stick with his familiar shape, guys like Timmy, Sterling and Filipe Toledo LOVE the board. Its a truly high performance board. Surf it in the same conditions as your go to shortboard.
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  7. 02-01-2012, 04:09 PM #7
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    Felipe Toledo??
    165cms 89Kgs dry...working on that at the moment...but not working!!! :)
    Potato 5'2" /Vanguard 5'6"/Potatonator 5'8"/ Spitfire 5'8" / Quadraflex 6'0" / Flexflight 9'0"
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  8. 02-01-2012, 06:34 PM #8
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    oh man iggy you missed him..go to the heats on demand for the burliegh junior comp from last week...cant remember what name it ran under....
    INSTAGRAM .... corepersonaltraining

    6ft..90ish kg..35+ years surfing

    WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD,*WHERE'S MY VANGUARD.... ETC
    IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED,
    IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED,
    IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT,
    IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE,
    IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE

    SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
    VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
    HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
    FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
    MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
    ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb

    and countless others (mostly nev's)

    youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
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  9. 02-01-2012, 07:08 PM #9
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    Geez!!! of course!!!! saw this kid during the comp!!!!.Unbelievable skills!!
    Remember he made it all the way to the Semis!. Remember the commentators talking about how good that board looked under his feet!!!.
    Was he just trying the boards during the comp??? cause he would be a great addition to the team!!!.I reckon Mr. Neville was scouting the comp
    165cms 89Kgs dry...working on that at the moment...but not working!!! :)
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  10. 02-01-2012, 07:29 PM #10
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    as far as i know, nev made it for taj who didnt use it so felipe got it...
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    6ft..90ish kg..35+ years surfing

    WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD,*WHERE'S MY VANGUARD.... ETC
    IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED,
    IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED,
    IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT,
    IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE,
    IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE

    SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
    VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
    HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
    FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
    MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
    ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb

    and countless others (mostly nev's)

    youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
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