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  1. 02-18-2012, 05:48 PM #1
    fredrick
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    hellfire for everything?

    Hi. I`m 6 foot and 82 kg. Imermediate surfer.

    I`ve got an alternator 6,0 (28,7 liters) and a CI Biscuit 5,8 20 1\4 2 3\4. (about 35 litres)
    I love my biscuit but the alternator I find need a good wave to come alive....( perhaps I should`ve gotten a bigger one...)

    I need a board that`s in between those two. I surf mainly beachbreaks with less that perfect conditions...Often it will be overhead with a steep drop and some flat sections furher in, and a little choppy. Also some duckdiving involded...I find the biscuit a little hard to dive when its big.
    Generally I have no problem catching waves the flat sections is the problems.....

    I`m thinking hellfire, but I don`t know. the 5,10 may be too simular to the alternator, and the 6,0 to big....(maybe hard to dive?)
    What do you guys think? Hellfire or something different....??
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  2. 02-19-2012, 09:35 AM #2
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    At your weight, the 6 0 Hellfire should be good. The 5 10 is on the lower side of your recommended volume, but again its always personal preference! The Hellfire is a different animal from the Alternator. It is thicker and wider than a regular shortboard.
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  3. 02-19-2012, 12:02 PM #3
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    The 6,0 hellfire is not to much board? Hard to dive?...I`m worried about the 2 1\2 thickness....

    Any ather boards I should consider?
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  4. 02-19-2012, 01:43 PM #4
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    Fredrick, IMO If you have longer legs and bigger feet stick to the 6-0, if you have normal or shorter than normal legs you can go 5-10, just keep your arms in shape for a little more paddle power. The board rips on glassy hollower performance waves. Use non flex Futures only, dont get it in FST or you will be breaking skegs because this board is loose and goes on rail quick but will hold any line you put it on. Tech flex Futures is too loose so stick to stiffer fins all the way to the tip,
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  5. 02-19-2012, 08:20 PM #5
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    6`0"lost subscorcher??
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  6. 02-19-2012, 10:07 PM #6
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    Iggy see you got the flexfire 6,2, is the hellfire 6,0 alot of board in comparison? Any problems diving it?
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  7. 02-19-2012, 10:10 PM #7
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    I dont think the 6 0 Hellfire will be hard to duck dive at your weight, but if you feel more comfortable with less volume, go with the 5 10. Look at the volume calculator and put your numbers in. You will see that the 5 10 is on the very low end of your weight. Its always a personal thing, but for me I want my volume in the mid to high range for my weight. I prefer the extra paddling power to struggling to catch waves!
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  8. 02-19-2012, 11:45 PM #8
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    True, I think I`ll go for 6,0.
    Thanks for the replys.

    Something else: Whats your favorite firewire board and why?
    Whats the most underrated (unappreciated) firewire board, and why?
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  9. 02-20-2012, 12:03 AM #9
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    hellfire for almost everything..more than any other..except the flexy mentioned below for 85-90 kg...

    faves...6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 flexfire and 5'10 hellfire...why?..unless you need a gun then these will win heats (or just shred for fun) in pretty much anything....

    underrated...futura...steps down off your full HPerf flexy/taj allowing you to contunue surfing full tilt...rides most of the upper limit of the other boards range too..!!
    INSTAGRAM .... corepersonaltraining

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    WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD,*WHERE'S MY VANGUARD.... ETC
    IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED,
    IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED,
    IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT,
    IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE,
    IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE

    SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
    VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
    HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
    FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
    MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
    ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb

    and countless others (mostly nev's)

    youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
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  10. 02-20-2012, 04:27 AM #10
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    Frederick, Hi. I got a simular 2 board quiver to you in that the Dom is a simular style board to your CI. I used to have an 600 Alternator but found after riding the Dom it wasn't as user friendly as i wanted. I found it to be a great board but i just wanted something that performed better in a wider range of conditions and something that paddled better but still had the performance of a shortboard. I swapped the 600 Alt for 510 HF. I ride simular conditions 2ft mush to a little overhead beachies and reefs and the Dom and HF cover me nicely. The HF basically ticks all the boxes in the paddling department and manouverability and the volume is spot on. It feels a lot more user friendly to me and has been so far the better performing board too. Its always gonna be a personal thing depending on person, style, waves and level but i can say from my experience that the 510 is bang on and i'm 80kgs. As hanaleisurfer said check the volume calculator it seems to be pretty acurate... Hope this helps.

    As for Fav board the Dominator is just AWESOME but that may change with more time on the HF!!!
    FST 508 Dominator
    FST 510 Unibrow
    FST 600 Alternator RT
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