just for reference, i jumped on a tiny 5'7 el fuego with futures yu's x 4...a small guys fin...had plenty for me to push against...and i'm 90kg...seemed to me to be a board you are pushing off a fair bit of rail so less fin (at least fin tip) needed...el fuego addicts may confirm this for us..
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SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb
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youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
i'll need to try a nubby on that board....
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Thanks slowman, Il order the AM2/GX combo then, the el fuego is flat and I guess stiffer than something like the dominator. I thought that larger fins had more drive though? wouldnt having a smaller fin be creating less drive?Originally Posted by Slowman
I was wondering do the back fins have any real impact on drive in a quad set up or is it really the front fins mainly contributing towards that?
Thanks again
Matt
el fuego type boards get good rail drive too..so you dont rely on fins completely
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SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb
and countless others (mostly nev's)
youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
large fins = more drive? Not really, in my experience the driviest fin I have is smaller than GAMs, it's my TC Redline. Things like rake and base length all have an effect. The GAMs have good drive because they have a rake of something like 36deg but that makes for a longer turning arc, a longer base can give more drive and combined with a more upright fin still give tight turning arcs (like the TC redlines do).
As for back fins, having an impact on drive in a quad set up, it's fair to say it does, but so do the front fins. I tried the GAM/Q1000 combination in my JS Kingpin and it was pretty good, so I thought I'd go for a bit more looseness with GAM/QR and it was loose but lost too much drive. So next I tried R2/Q1000 and also lost drive. So it's fairer to say you have to treat the combination as a whole and see how it works for you. The board of course, also has an effect on drive and looseness as Core pointed out.
Last edited by Slowman; 01-21-2012 at 03:35 AM.
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5'8 RF Vanguard 32.2L FCS H3 quad
6'0 FST Dominator 34.8L FCS PC SF4 quad + stabiliser
6'0 FST Spitfire 34.9L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser
6'2 FST Jacknife 33.3L FCS PC quad front/rear TC Redlines/TC Aqualines
6'2 FST Hellfire 33.7L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser (x 2, yes 1 here, 1 there!)
6'4 FST Alternator 34.?L FCS PG7
6'7 FST Hellrazor 36.5L FCS R2 thruster
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6'5 FST Hellrazor 33.5L FCS coming
drat, double post
Last edited by Slowman; 01-21-2012 at 03:33 AM.
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Moving forward or just spinning faster?
5'8 RF Vanguard 32.2L FCS H3 quad
6'0 FST Dominator 34.8L FCS PC SF4 quad + stabiliser
6'0 FST Spitfire 34.9L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser
6'2 FST Jacknife 33.3L FCS PC quad front/rear TC Redlines/TC Aqualines
6'2 FST Hellfire 33.7L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser (x 2, yes 1 here, 1 there!)
6'4 FST Alternator 34.?L FCS PG7
6'7 FST Hellrazor 36.5L FCS R2 thruster
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6'5 FST Hellrazor 33.5L FCS coming
I should add construction materials can make a significant difference to the same fin template as well. I reckon you should try glass flex fins as boomerangs and see if they're any good for hunting!
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5'8 RF Vanguard 32.2L FCS H3 quad
6'0 FST Dominator 34.8L FCS PC SF4 quad + stabiliser
6'0 FST Spitfire 34.9L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser
6'2 FST Jacknife 33.3L FCS PC quad front/rear TC Redlines/TC Aqualines
6'2 FST Hellfire 33.7L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser (x 2, yes 1 here, 1 there!)
6'4 FST Alternator 34.?L FCS PG7
6'7 FST Hellrazor 36.5L FCS R2 thruster
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6'5 FST Hellrazor 33.5L FCS coming
Tried the nubster today on a 2-4 foot swell. Had a lot of stick on the face of the waves and was not very loose at all. I am not sure if I like it or not as I love my K 2.1 set up as a quad and this might make it stick a little more with the nubster in.
6'0" Spitfire RF (Futures) / 6'2" Spitfire FST (FCS) / 6'1" El Fuego FST (FCS) / 6'2" Hellfire FST (Futures) / Alternator 6'4" FST (FCS) / 6'10 ADDvance RF (FCS) /
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yeah work you could go smaller than the k2.1s or go with smaller trailers to try to loosen it up!!
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I think after surfing today with it 2-4 foot and no nubster I like it better without the nubster. I think if the waves get bigger then I will go with the nubster. (3-4 foot) Chris, what would be the next smallest size from the k 2.1's?
Brent
6'0" Spitfire RF (Futures) / 6'2" Spitfire FST (FCS) / 6'1" El Fuego FST (FCS) / 6'2" Hellfire FST (Futures) / Alternator 6'4" FST (FCS) / 6'10 ADDvance RF (FCS) /
42 years young / 6'3" 180 lbs
Stuff I owned and sold: 5'6" Sweet Potato (FCS) (Sold) / 6'0" DOM (FCS) (Sold) / 6'2" DOM (FCS) (Sold) /
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