I'm an FCS man and don't know the Futures fin range well, you'll have to learn to google old son! But if the futures AM2/AM1 combination works for you, well and good.Originally Posted by hwork50
I'm an FCS man and don't know the Futures fin range well, you'll have to learn to google old son! But if the futures AM2/AM1 combination works for you, well and good.
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5'8 RF Vanguard 32.2L FCS H3 quad
6'0 FST Dominator 34.8L FCS PC SF4 quad + stabiliser
6'0 FST Spitfire 34.9L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser
6'2 FST Jacknife 33.3L FCS PC quad front/rear TC Redlines/TC Aqualines
6'2 FST Hellfire 33.7L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser (x 2, yes 1 here, 1 there!)
6'4 FST Alternator 34.?L FCS PG7
6'7 FST Hellrazor 36.5L FCS R2 thruster
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6'5 FST Hellrazor 33.5L FCS coming
I can't make a call between the Spitfire and Hellfire as I haven't ridden a Hellfire. However, like you I like carved "power" turns. I'm using GAM's and PC7's in FCS and like them both. Either would do great. Also, the "Occy" Kinetic Racing fins could be worth considering. I have my eyes on a set at some point.
I'll likely be ordering or buying a Hellfire myself next week @6'4" for a step up from my Dom. I could give you more detailed thoughts then but I'd have thought a HF would cover most waves from waist high to 2 x overhead from reports. I sufpect though you'd need reasonable paddle fitness to work at waist high, which is maybe 1 in 5 surfing days.
Oh yes I am very familiar with that. It is a tough call because usually I like to go with people's advice over just a general google search. I wanted something close the K2.1's and I think the AM2's are pretty close. I am an FCS guy as well, so you are preaching to the choir.
6'0" Spitfire RF (Futures) / 6'2" Spitfire FST (FCS) / 6'1" El Fuego FST (FCS) / 6'2" Hellfire FST (Futures) / Alternator 6'4" FST (FCS) / 6'10 ADDvance RF (FCS) /
42 years young / 6'3" 180 lbs
Stuff I owned and sold: 5'6" Sweet Potato (FCS) (Sold) / 6'0" DOM (FCS) (Sold) / 6'2" DOM (FCS) (Sold) /
if you mean futures am2 then they are not like the 2.1's....the closest futures are the wct's...but for me they have a little less to push off so are no good to me...in normal tails i have found the jc's take what i liked about the 2.1's and extend that...
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SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb
and countless others (mostly nev's)
youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
on a 510 hf the simon sa3 is a perfect match...am2's rake clashes a bit...opens arcs up a tad but you lose reaction time and freedom..
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WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD,*WHERE'S MY VANGUARD.... ETC
IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED,
IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED,
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SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb
and countless others (mostly nev's)
youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
Ok, Ill have to check those out. I went to my local surf shop and they recommended the AM2's saying that this was the fin for this particular board. Kind of bummed as I only got the thruster set-up as I rode it as a quad and quiet enjoyed it. If fins were not 100- a set I think I would be apt to buy a few more sets.
Core, could you recommend a god five fin set-up in the futures option for the Hellfire? I am 185 lb and really like having a quad option as well as the thruster set-up. I surf quads better than thrusters, not sure why.
Thanks,
Brent
Last edited by hwork50; 03-17-2012 at 08:12 AM.
6'0" Spitfire RF (Futures) / 6'2" Spitfire FST (FCS) / 6'1" El Fuego FST (FCS) / 6'2" Hellfire FST (Futures) / Alternator 6'4" FST (FCS) / 6'10 ADDvance RF (FCS) /
42 years young / 6'3" 180 lbs
Stuff I owned and sold: 5'6" Sweet Potato (FCS) (Sold) / 6'0" DOM (FCS) (Sold) / 6'2" DOM (FCS) (Sold) /
work...i went with Nev's choices on his 510...even with our different weights (70/90).. i got the sa rears to go with the thrusters..they are large rears so great for forehand down the line stuff but maybe get smaller rears for backhand or pockets...have to say though, that i dont like fourfins as a rule...he also liked the pancho's and am2's..am2's might mesh better with your longer board, but for me they take away the point of the 510 in most conditions...at least the techflex did...maybe a softer flex???...if slowman likes a rakey fin in his 602 then maybe the am2's will suit...i'm not sold on them in techflex though..a little unresponsive..
crazylegs....i'm on the cenny coast ...these days i'm surfing on the uninhabited stretches south of newy....there's some good waves around nelson bay...often empty too...!!..make yourself known when you get over here..
Last edited by core personal training; 03-17-2012 at 06:02 PM. Reason: kant spel good
INSTAGRAM .... corepersonaltraining
6ft..90ish kg..35+ years surfing
WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD,*WHERE'S MY VANGUARD.... ETC
IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED,
IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED,
IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT,
IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE,
IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE
SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb
and countless others (mostly nev's)
youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
Cool, thanks for the input guys....Hellfire it is then. Now its just which size (been covered a million times before I know but not my weight/size) I am currently 83kg but go up to 85kgs on a bad day and 6'1" tall. The volume calculator is telling me I sit betweem 29.6 and 38.4L which would make the 6'2" at 33.7 a good choice? I could probably push it at the 6' but I would rather have slightly too much foam than too little...Im a definite intermediate surfer.
Next, fins...the GAM's seem a pretty decent choice, as do the SA-2 and the PC7. As I said, I will never be the best surfer on the water so any choice would be a decent one I think.
I would like to trade my current board in too and get either the Spitfire, Dominator or even the El Fuego (order of preference) and feel these 2 boards would be an awesome pairing which would cover nearly all conditons. If I were to go the 6'2" HF, i guess the SF 6' (34.9) or even the 5'10" at a push (33.5) would be the way to go?
I want to keep the volumes pretty similar I think?
Are these 2 boards HF and SF a good choice or are they too similar and would the same fins work on both boards?
Cheers
I'd put you after the 6'0" HF personally. It packs a lot of foam.
You know yourself best though, but try to feel both up and see which feels right. I think the 6'2" might feel huge.
HF/SF is a good little quiver and it should be a fairly smooth transition between boards, but there would be a bit of overlap there also.
Crazylegs, for the suggested volume range 6'2 hellfire and 6'0 spitfire are in the middle. If the spitfire is going to be for smaller waves then having a little more volume than the hellfire isn't a bad thing. In smaller or softer waves it will help catch more.
For fins, I like the Rusty quads they are nice and loose while still having drive and tons of speed. I use them in both the hellfire and spitfire. The K2.1 quads are ok too but I think I like the Rusty fins better.
Jesus is coming, look busy!
Moving forward or just spinning faster?
5'8 RF Vanguard 32.2L FCS H3 quad
6'0 FST Dominator 34.8L FCS PC SF4 quad + stabiliser
6'0 FST Spitfire 34.9L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser
6'2 FST Jacknife 33.3L FCS PC quad front/rear TC Redlines/TC Aqualines
6'2 FST Hellfire 33.7L FCS PC R2 quad + stabiliser (x 2, yes 1 here, 1 there!)
6'4 FST Alternator 34.?L FCS PG7
6'7 FST Hellrazor 36.5L FCS R2 thruster
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6'5 FST Hellrazor 33.5L FCS coming
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