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  1. 05-18-2012, 06:17 PM #11
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    hey wil, re comparison of the alt ff mb and hf...the first three are in one category in ascending order of required input from the rider...the hf is in a world of its own and if you are good enough to ride it small, then you will ride it in everything..(except slabs..although it can do it)...it feels "slightly hybrid" when you first jump off normal boards but quickly feels normal itself...only better....now you find yourself powering through moves you normally blow on a normal board that's held back by the laws of hydro-dynamics....its that good...cant wait to spend time on the razor....

    the others all ride as conventional boards with the alt being the most approachable..it and the MB generally should be ridden a notch shorter than your flexfire..(assuming your ff or normal board is the right length)...the rockers ramp up from alt to ff to mb so choose the one closest to your normal preferences...

    an anomaly here is the 6'2x18 3/4x 2 1/2 flexfire....its a one board quiver for anyone who rides similar dimensions..(any bigger rider like me on 6'0-6'4 could look at it)...this is the one i snapped (after a year of multiple dry slab bails per day)...it will be replaced...thats the other good thing with firewire...you can accurately replace a board....i'm enjoying changing it up with the new designs and drawing new lines on a wave, but if i were trying to surf competitively week in week out..(which i'm not...i'm an ageing kook)...i would exclusively ride this 6'2 ff....when in form (rarely), it would surf comp style in 2 foot crap up to macking ledges...same futures jc hex fins in everything....lighter/smaller guys will get this magic from the smaller versions of the standard flexfire.....

    here 'tis...a moments silence please...the situations this got itself into...the places it took me....
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    SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
    VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
    HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
    FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
    MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
    ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb

    and countless others (mostly nev's)

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  2. 05-18-2012, 06:37 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chito View Post
    If you are some freak charger that is lacking the idea of self preservation and are dead set on following core with the whole slab diving experiments
    ha...BTW guys, i'm definitely NOT one of those freak chargers..!!... that's why i regularly throw my boards down the mine as i scream for my mummy in the fetal position whilst waiting for the impact..!!!...and to be honest, i now seek out nice trestles style waves...or at least clean takeoffs before they get serious....i'm finding over the last couple of years i've gone really soft and dont like adrenaline rushes anymore...but dont worry guys....i'm not gunna ride mals yet...
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    WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD,*WHERE'S MY VANGUARD.... ETC
    IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED,
    IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED,
    IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT,
    IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE,
    IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE

    SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
    VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
    HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
    FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
    MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
    ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb

    and countless others (mostly nev's)

    youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
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  3. 05-19-2012, 06:00 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by core personal training View Post
    ha...BTW guys, i'm definitely NOT one of those freak chargers..!!... that's why i regularly throw my boards down the mine as i scream for my mummy in the fetal position whilst waiting for the impact..!!!..
    Hahaha

    Nice one Core!
    Iv actually got the chance of picking up a fairly cheap 5'10 hellfire so I think I might do that. Will have the 5'8 spit, 5'10 hf and 6'3 flex fire then. I think that will have me covered for a lot of stuff. Hope there isn't much overlap with the spit and hf, I don't really have £550 to spend on a new razor and I doubt many will be for sale secondhand anytime soon.
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  4. 05-19-2012, 09:23 AM #14
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    chito,
    wish it was at least head high here for the last month. maybe i should go there in the springs.
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  5. 05-19-2012, 05:08 PM #15
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    I also wish it was head high here everyday for the last month. Haven't had a good swell in what feels like ages!
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  6. 05-20-2012, 12:25 AM #16
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    Longer than that. Next week though!
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  7. 05-23-2012, 06:11 AM #17
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    So guys I picked up a 5'10 HF to fill my quiver. Came today and it looks sweet, shame it suffered a little crack in the tail in transit but its nothing bad! It has a lot more nose rocker than the SF and a bit more tail rocker, its tail is quite alot thinner and it hides its width well in my opinion. Took a pic of my quiver, I was lazy and couldnt be bothered to take the fins out and put them all back in but you can see the rockers/foils of the 5'8 spit, 5'10 HF and 6'3 flexfire. The spit is alot flatter than the HF, the flexfire looks quite wide in this pic I think its the angle but it is an inch thinner than the HF. Thought theses pics might be of some interest to people who are interested in any of these boards...

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    I think this will pretty much have me covered now for most conditions, a SP would do nicely though ha.
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  8. 05-23-2012, 03:38 PM #18
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    good stuff will...it'll be all ya ride...!!!....remember to back foot bottom turn and hold on..!!..and try a bigger fin than your flexy...eg, both Nev and I (at 70 and 90 kg's) use in futures jc's in a 602 flexy and simon 3's in 510 HF...raked fins like the large am's work but stiffen it...
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    WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD, WHERE'S MY VANGUARD,*WHERE'S MY VANGUARD.... ETC
    IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED, IT'S GETTING SPRAYED,
    IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED, IT'S BEEN SPRAYED,
    IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT, IT'S IN TRANSIT,
    IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE, IT'S HERE,
    IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE, IT'S HAD A BAPTISM OF FIRE

    SWEET POTATO--- R/F -- 5'4 -------------------------- fins controllers
    VANGUARD -------- WRF -- 5'6 ------------------------- fins futures ea blackstix..may test something a little bigger and stiffer
    HELLFIRE ----------- R/F -- 5'10 ------------------------ fins futures SA3,SA4 honeycomb
    FLEXFIRE ----------- R/F -- 6'2 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 ------ fins futures JC honeycomb
    MICHEL BOUREZ------------6'2 --thick then thin ------- fins futures JC honeycomb, AM2 techflex heavy chop, ea b/stix at 84kg, now testing AM2 hex
    ALTERNATOR ------ R/F -- 6'4--for bad back days---- fins futures JC honeycomb

    and countless others (mostly nev's)

    youngest grommet 45kgs throws my hellfire around with SA3's or in mush uses EA (techflex "cuz they look da bomb") and deviant
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  9. 05-26-2012, 11:32 AM #19
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    I have the quad set that comes with the board in futures and a honeycomb set of EA's..you tried them? Ill see how they go anyway and if i find I need a bigger fin ill get some more.
    Nice one Core, cannot wait to ride it!
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  10. 05-26-2012, 11:35 AM #20
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    Nice quiver coming together Will!
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