Hey nev. a bunch of the local pros here in nj (Sam hammer and mike Gleason to be exact. Gleason is a volcom guy who gets some nice video shots in Hawaii in the winter. ) have been riding some retro rocket type models in some serious winter barrels. I guess lost has the new rock up model. Short Pin tail. Wide nose ect. These guys only ride this on heaving head to double overhead barrels. I guess the idea is to get into the wave turn and hold on. Any chance fw might develop a similar barrel riding machine. I know you mentioned the Dom as a rocket type version. In the winter steep fast and hollow is common place.