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  1. #11
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    Hi,
    I have that 6'2" alt at 2 3/8 as well (and love it) and the figure I got from Nev a while back was 28.7 litres. I now really enjoy the MB at 29.9 but I also weigh in at close to 90kgs. It is only a 1 litre / 2.8% step in either direction for you so I guess while it won't matter too much, it depends how you feel on the Alt and whether you want a teeny tiny little more or less float. (MB weighs 168 and rides the thick 5'10" at 27.2 litres)

    I'm finding that my MB covers anything I could surf the alt in (this model alt also has more rocker than the current version) but offers higher performance and response. Certainly it does go best in better waves.
    88Kgs - 5'10" - 45yrs going on 18
    5'10" FST Dominator
    5'11" FST Chubby Chedda
    6'0" FST Michel Bourez
    6'0" FST Mini Driver
    6'2" Hayden Shapes Shred Sled King

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    Here's the only reason I'm hesitating on the thick version. Does the 2'9/16 make you stand higher off the water than say a 6'0 sleath?? Because the bourez is thicker but the stealth has more volume.... Is it volume or thickness that kills the performance?

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    I don't think it is as simply as volume vs thickness. I would suggest that the MB "package" is more high performance. even if it is slightly thicker or a couple of litres more than the Stealth.
    Was out on mine again this morning 3-4 foot peaks and go to say again "I love it." It is one smooth board.
    88Kgs - 5'10" - 45yrs going on 18
    5'10" FST Dominator
    5'11" FST Chubby Chedda
    6'0" FST Michel Bourez
    6'0" FST Mini Driver
    6'2" Hayden Shapes Shred Sled King

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    Hmm ok I think I'm going to go for the 600 thick... My only worry is that the bourez model is thicker than my 510 dominator.. But because it has less volume overall does that mean I won't ride as high on the water ? Or will I ride higher because of the greater thickness?? I really am looking forward to the thick version but that sounds super thick.. Are the rails atleast super thin? Like does it dome out a ton??

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    And could anyone verify that the gen 1 alternator 6'2 2'38 are around 28.7 liters because I have a few different volume estimates on that board

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    Hi found Nevs response from the old forum.
    Sorry my mistake its 29.7 - not 28.7 as I have been thinking for the past 2 years (no wonder there's not much difference in float) (I thought it only felt like 200ml difference)

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    Mate...the older Alternator would have had a volume 30l and the current on 33l. The difference is that we bumped up the thickness from 2 3/8" to 2 1/2"

    Re same volume and length, but longer as a step up, will not necessarily paddle the same. If anything less well as Mark said due to the reduced planning area under your chest, but it would be close. For example the FE606P 18 3/4 x 2 1/2 step up has the same volume as your first AR 602 at 29.7l
    88Kgs - 5'10" - 45yrs going on 18
    5'10" FST Dominator
    5'11" FST Chubby Chedda
    6'0" FST Michel Bourez
    6'0" FST Mini Driver
    6'2" Hayden Shapes Shred Sled King

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    so the step up 66 flex would paddle better than the old 62 alternator because of the extra planing area? or would i be better to grab a 602 round alternator as a step up? with 31.3 li? or will the extra length of the 66 get me in t waves just as extra volume would?

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    Actually, that was the other part of my original question in that forum. The answer was 'no' a longer board of the same volume will paddle slightly less well than a shorter one, due to less volume/ float directly under your body mass.
    A longer board however does have a longer glide between strokes -but you would want a slight increase in volume to appreciate it.
    88Kgs - 5'10" - 45yrs going on 18
    5'10" FST Dominator
    5'11" FST Chubby Chedda
    6'0" FST Michel Bourez
    6'0" FST Mini Driver
    6'2" Hayden Shapes Shred Sled King

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    Ohh k so I would be better to go for the 6'2 roung tail alt? Hmm I think my 4 board quiver is going to be a 510 Dom, 6'0 mini driver or stealth, 6'0 thick bourez and 6'2 round alt? How's that sound??

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    Yeah sarge that is accurate there on the 602 2 3/8...

    Jneave, what about a small wave buster?? I would say get a small wave beast before the Minnie Driver??
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