Cuttlefish woodsy and sutto do me a pretty good deal!! thats the good thing about firewires they dont get beaten up.. i bought a few second hand and have sold them for the same $$. the start of winter last year i was about 114kg and i have been down to 95 kg and now hovering just a little up from that now!! since i started dropping weight i have been able to come down in volume ... hence a few boards!! i know if i put 2 kg on i can feel it on the board!!