Can't wait to play around with this! Good work guys!!!

This is goooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!!!!!!

Spitfire in FST????? maybe later??

Can you order these is Rapidfire or is it FST only?
I made an Alternator 510x19x2.5 with a slightly wider nose and a the max width tail. Would love to try one like that.

FW should do a competition where the prize is you can win your own custom board :D how about it guys?!

Igster - we'll be expanding the line in the future - i'm not sure exactly in what order we'll be releasing what boards, but i'm sure it'll get mentioned on here. hold yer horses.

prjwebb - click the "buy this board" button on the MY BOARDS page and it will take you to more options ... don't worry, you won't be committed to buy until you go thru the entire checkout process (yes, rapidfire and fst are available)

Hi Justin, Bruce P.this is awesome. Can't wait to see the full potential of this program.

Few quick questions.
Are the volumes pretty accurate?

Roughly whats the ETA on when this will be available to order in Australia?

Again great work guys!!!!

volumes are incredibly accurate - the software is 'building' a 3D CAD file of your board.

We should be going live in Australia in about 6-8 weeks, but we want to make sure everything is rolling on the back end order data base. CAD program is fully dialed, but might be some glitches in the ecommerce module, shipping details etc.

One bit of feedback, the 3D output for the Flexfire and Alternators say that they are diamond tails. Even though they look like they are squash tails in the PDF files. I think its probably just a mis-labeling. The 3D PDFs for the Dom and El Feugo tails seem to be labeled correctly, round and diamond tails respectively.

And of course awesome work guys!

Gr8 stuff!

On a 5'9" Alternator pdf the board was named El Fuego in the top right series box & as MG mentioned the tail a diamond. File name is correct and board shape etc. in the file.

Hours of entertainment! He he he.

MeanGreen, Drumbull - thanks for the catches ... we'll get those fixed today

I had some trouble with a 511 Alternator yesterday. The rocker and width profile images weren't loading up on the preview screen.

prjwebb-

ya know, we've noticed it do that occasionally ... it's something we're tracking.

for a temp fix, just reload the page or go to another length and back

thanks for your patience, we still have a few things to iron out ... and thanks for the mention. keep kicking the tires!

There's a couple of kinks to iron out, but it's a fantastic program!

When do you guys see adding more of the FF boards to the custom board options? I wanted to make some small tweaks to the FFE-604R-03(adding 2 inches in length) and the FFE-700P-03 (adding 5/8" in width).

BTW I think I already got two customs I am about ready to order. Man this thing is awesome, especially being able to see how your changes affect the volume of the board. This is really going to help people get custom boards a lot closer to what will actually work for them.

I know its already helped me. I totally thought I knew what I wanted in a custom alternator, but being able to see how a few fractions of an inch difference in width would add volume in ways I didn't consider, really changed what I thought I'd need. Its pretty amazing.

MeanGreen - you are using CBD exactly as it is intended, great!

MeanGreen and drumbull - thanks for pointing out the errors, Alternators are now all Alternators(!) with a 'Bump' tail, and Flexfires now correctly show their 'Squash' tail. Most appreciated. With the concentration put into getting the details of the geometry just right, a couple of non-geometry items slipped through undetected before launch.

MeanGreen, our list for expanding the board range will likely be posted here once we know for certain. seeing as how we just launched this, it won't be immediately immediate ... we'll keep you just as informed as we can.

DOH. please ignore what i had posted here before, i didn't read thoroughly. sometimes the little fingers type faster than the brain can process.

I just was messing around with the 6'2" Flexfire and I noticed that the stock dimensions listed to the right don't match what is listed in the white section of the tool. For instance the width of the stock 6'2" says 18 3/8" on the right and on the left. But in the white middle section it says 18.69 which I think is 18 11/16". Its the same deals with the thickness. The stock dims say 2 1/4" but the white section says 2.44 which I think is 2 7/16".

I played with it to see if maybe the white sections labels just weren't accurate, but when you go through to create the 3D model its still using the 18 11/16" width and 2 7/16" thickness instead of 18 3/8 and 2 1/4 stock dims.

Heres a screen shot so you see what I mean.

thanks for the find ... we'll get that ironed out

Prrrrety exciting!!

MeanGreen - the issue you point out regarding all dimensions not agreeing is a bit of a tricky one, one that Nev and I and Justin are working out on a few individual boards. It generally has to do with rounding. Nev typically works in metric, and in some scenarios his dimension may round up where the flexible parametric CAD model driven by CBD may round down while the difference between the two values could be as little as .010", which is about the thickness of 3 sheets of paper. We are working at making all the dimensions consistent on all the CBD models. One thing that is consistent is that the adjustments you are making on the CUSTOMIZE BOARDS page are exact . When you visually compare your custom to the stock model in the 3D PDF the differences you see are exact. Also, the volume of your custom is right on.

Now that custom boards are possible, is there a chance you can get extra glassing on the top deck.
Say either 1 x 6 once or 2 x 4 once or even 1 & 1/2 x 4 once. I know this will add weight, but now that thickness of a board can be added this will help compensate. I'm guessing you might say it will mess with the flex of the board. But i'm sure it'll just make say a standard flexfire a bit more stiffer like a direct drive or similar to how the springer works in the Taj models.

I own a 6'4 Taj and a 6'0 Stealth, and i can feel the difference in the stiffness of the flex between the two.
at a solid 87-90 kgs the extra glassing would be good for the heavier surfer, as were used to burying the rail of the board and giving the flex a good workout.

it's an option you can get from any shaper, so i'm not asking for a direct yes now. But down the track is it something you would consider for a custom made option for the heavier surfer, and the buyer is aware and agrees to accept the board no matter what the changes may do to the weight and flex of the board.

Hey Stylar,
Here is the best answer I have for you. I just talked with Mark quickly and the short answer right now is no. It won't be available. However, the CBD program has only been live for 4 days, maybe 5 and already we are coming up with more stuff to make it better. Mark bought a notebook that is already full of ideas. What has to happen is the approach has to be streamlined and the original kinks must be ironed out before we can absorb new tasks.

After that I can gurantee there will be additions and new options available. I can't give you anything definite but rest assured that every customizable option that we have the capcity to offer, we will offer. Its just a matter of time, however we have to make sure that we don't get too far ahead of ourselves. Hang tight and stay tuned because all news regarding the CBD will be posted here first.

Cheers.

What's the generic turn around time? 10 weeks to shop?

Cheers
Spencer

Sorry one more question...do the boards with the 5 fin options (Dom & El Fuego) still come with that set up if it's custom? I'd like to thin both those models out a touch but it seems like I can do the most damage by messing with dimensions on 5 fin set ups???

yes they will still come with the 5 fin options. and turn around time we are saying 10-12 weeks. could be quicker, but that is what makes the most sense to plan on.

Hi all, I have just plugged the standard Alternator 6'2 dims into the CBD and it is showing volume of 31.9 which is different to the published volume on the quiver page for the same model. I am modelling the bump squash. Which is correct 31.9 (as per CBD page) or 31.3 (under the AR quiver page)? Also, the 6'2 comes as standard in a round tail as well as a bump squash. If I customize a 6'2 AR will I be able to specify I want a round tail rather than bump squash?

Thanks Bruce, that makes sense. But I think then the stock 6'2" that is listed is probably not the stock 6'2 x 18 3/8" x 2 1/4" model that is shown in the blue sections on the right and left, but maybe the the 6'2 x 18 3/4" x 2 1/2" stock model? Since when you look at it in the white section its actually 6'2" x 18 11/16" x 2 7/16" which seems closest to the 18 3/4" x 2 1/2" stock model. Maybe that is why the labeling looks so off?

If you want to double check its the first one in my queue of boards. I ran it based on the stock dims which on the right and left should be 6'2 x 18 3/8" x 2 1/4" model, but in the white section it appears to be 6'2" x 18 11/16" x 2 7/16".

Found something strange,

With the CBD I shrunk a 5'10" Alternator reducing the width by a 1/4" and the nose & tail widths each by an 1/8". Probably not something that I would actually order but I am just seeing how this thing works. The volume shown on the pdf. file of the custom board is 26.36 when it is a smaller board than the stock Alternator, FAR-510B-03, 5' 10", 18 1/2", 2 1/4" bump 25.9 shown on the quiver details page.

Weird huh?

RJM

Question about fin box choices...I noticed that the option included only Futures and FCS...Is there an option for FCS Fusion boxes? Did I miss something along the way?

all fcs boxes are fusion on FWs now

I see that the volume for a stock 5'10" is 26.9l according to the program but only 25.9l when looking at the table in the quiver section. What is the correct volume?

Hey guys,
The boys are working on fixing this right now. We'll post something as soon as it's taken care of.

Thanks for the heads up.

yep, thanks for all the input, it's exactly what we need to dial this in

Jarmo ... what series are you referring to?

Sorry, forgott to specify, it's the Alternator.

VOLUMES - the volume displayed in your custom board's 3D PDF is the correct volume in all cases. There are a few cases where the volumes reported on the QUIVER pages are out of date, that is, stock board models have been slightly modified over the last year or two and the volume info displayed in the QUIVER section was not updated. We are looking into this as I write, and we should have all values matching very soon. Thanks for helping us catch these discrepancies!

MeanGreen - thanks for the detailed info on the 6'2'' you customized. We are correcting not only the volume info, but all the dimension inconsistencies as well. I will create a new post when all have been fixed! Thanks MeanGreen

Thanks for the answer! I have another question regarding the Alternator, will the 5'11" be available as stock or just custom?

Hey Jarmo, right now the 5'11 is not going to be a stock made board. Perhaps in time, but for inventory expense reasons we haven't unveiled a lot of new stock sizes because there is a lot of other stuff going on.

its a good thought no doubt and nothing is permanently set in stone, but there aren't any plans to change that.

Cheers.

firewire- will the custom program eventually be expanded to include the direct drive?

Hi all, I have just plugged the standard Alternator 6'2 dims into the CBD and it is showing volume of 31.9 which is different to the published volume on the quiver page for the same model. I am modelling the bump squash. Which is correct 31.9 (as per CBD page) or 31.3 (under the AR quiver page)? Also, the 6'2 comes as standard in a round tail as well as a bump squash. If I customize a 6'2 AR will I be able to specify I want a round tail rather than bump squash?

hey woj,
the custom program is definitely going to be expanded, but we do not have plans or a timeline that include direct drive. it will definitely be a stepwise process so stay tuned.

Cheers!

FW - Fan -

VOLUMES - the volume displayed in your custom board's 3D PDF is the correct volume in all cases. There are a few cases where the volumes reported on the QUIVER pages are out of date, that is, stock board models have been slightly modified over the last year or two and the volume info displayed in the QUIVER section was not updated. We are looking into this as I write, and we should have all values matching very soon. Thanks for helping us catch these discrepancies!

thanks Justin ... what about the round tail? it's a standard tail in the 6'2 alt so can I order a 6'2 round tail alt under the cbd?? thanks

FW-Fan, nope ... for right now, the CBD only has bump for the alternator ... as the CBD line grows in the future, we'll be adding in more tail shapes

Hey guys, when do you see allowing more options in the customs like different tails, allowing 1/16th of an inch in thickness, etc. I am just trying to plan out my board buying. I’ll wait on certain boards if I know I can get them from you guys in the near future.

I already have about three boards I would love to customize but can’t due to the current limitations in the custom program. I’d love to take the FFE-602R-03 since its already a round tail and add an 1/8 of an inch in thickness, making it 2 3/8" thick. Then I’d take the FFE-604R-03 and add 2 inches in length, I love the wider rounded pin on this board and would love it as a 6’6” step up. My last board would be taking the FFE-700P-03 and adding 5/8 of an inch to it to make it 19 inches wide.

This may not be as easy as I think it is, but could you just load all the stock boards you currently have and just let people add length, thickness and width to them? This would definitely allow me to get all the boards I’d like. Right now I can only really do one of the boards I want. Creating a 6’0”x 19” x 2 3/8” alternator since it already has a bump squash like I want and the stock board listed is close enough to what I want in a custom.

how about a slight pulled in, thinned out tail volume of the roundtail 5'6" Dominator with the double concave /spline bottom of the sweet potato????
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Hey Mean and dyoung,
the CBD program is something that will grow in time. In a sense its necessary for us to start small and grow because if we were to try to incorporate all the elements you are mentioning, quality control would be a lot more difficult and the cost would be extreme. Offering customization capabilities is actually an expensive and time consuming endeavor due to the complexity of the board building process, so for a lot of reasons, the inclusion of new components will be done in a stepwise process.

There is no calendar as of yet to offer all of these features yet, but i can tell you that CBD is in no way complete. We will keep you updated as always here.

Cheers

Meangreen,

We've been cranking on the 1/16" thickness option and will have that in about 2 weeks. Chris, sorry I forgot to give you a heads up on that one.